Message from @Karu

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2019-07-12 20:32:59 UTC  

I was asking whether that was an accurate summation of their position, not whether sedeism is legit or not

2019-07-12 20:33:00 UTC  

She was precisely mentioning what were the sde arguments

2019-07-12 20:33:07 UTC  

Oh ok

2019-07-12 20:33:11 UTC  

Dumb dumb

2019-07-12 20:33:12 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/592839808783745024/599337490662424596/image0.jpg

2019-07-12 20:34:15 UTC  

There was this sede who lasted here like some hours who, when pressed, said that Paul was whatever because he contradicted Peter, and nobody can contradict the Pope because of course the Pope is always right

2019-07-12 20:34:42 UTC  

So he had no idea how papal infallibility works basically

2019-07-12 20:34:54 UTC  

Sedes are dumb lmao

2019-07-12 20:35:06 UTC  

but yeah, if that's what it boils down to, it involves a bunch of canon law stuff I don't have the standing to begin understanding

2019-07-12 20:35:33 UTC  

also, it would mean the church has fallen, so idk christ is a liar ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2019-07-12 20:36:03 UTC  

Begome Ordodogs xDDD

2019-07-12 20:36:09 UTC  

Papal infallibility only applies when the Pope speaks Ex Cathedra, which is enforcing his authority as Vicar of Christ, often these results in Papal Bulls

2019-07-12 20:36:27 UTC  

right, which hasn't been done since 1950something

2019-07-12 20:36:56 UTC  

also:
>begome member of religion with zero unity and confusion everywhere
pls

2019-07-12 20:37:04 UTC  

Unsure, the last Bull that comes to mind is Ambulate in Dilectione

2019-07-12 20:37:19 UTC  

IT'S A MYSTERY

2019-07-12 20:37:55 UTC  

sounds like everything north of the priesthood has been mired in intrigue for decades and it's not worth the average catholic sparing a thought for

2019-07-12 20:38:03 UTC  

In my opinion, people have obsessed too much about all these legalistic things. Overall, I mostly guide myself by the councils that are declared ecumenical by the Pope

2019-07-12 20:39:09 UTC  

mm. And canon law as I understand it is not infalliable, divine, etc, it is mostly a guidebook on how the affairs of the church are organized

2019-07-12 20:39:32 UTC  

it interprets doctrine, it isn't doctrine itself

2019-07-12 20:40:30 UTC  

still - i'd be lying if I said nearly 70 years of garbage popes didn't give me some heartburn

2019-07-12 20:40:38 UTC  

Canon law is established for the Church on Earth to follow hierarchical rules accordingly

2019-07-12 20:42:25 UTC  

We are all burned, but partially because we obsess too much with certain things

2019-07-12 20:45:03 UTC  

Remember though, the Church is not human in nature and is therefore infallible

2019-07-12 20:45:05 UTC  

All these things were prophetized

2019-07-12 20:45:12 UTC  

Humans are however, not free of error

2019-07-12 20:45:44 UTC  

Jesus Christ is the head and the Church is the body

2019-07-12 20:54:33 UTC  

2 Corinthians 4:7

2019-07-12 20:54:33 UTC  

**2 Corinthians 4:7 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<7> But we have this treasure in clay jars, so that it may be made clear that this extraordinary power belongs to God and does not come from us. ```

2019-07-12 20:54:55 UTC  

How do I change my BibleBot translation?

2019-07-12 20:56:33 UTC  

its +setversion (code)

2019-07-12 20:56:40 UTC  

+setversion nabre

2019-07-12 20:56:41 UTC  

2019-07-12 20:56:54 UTC  

2 Corinthians 4:7

2019-07-12 20:56:55 UTC  

**II Corinthios 4:7 - Biblia Sacra Vulgata (VULGATE)**

```Dust


<7> Habemus autem thesaurum istum in vasis fictilibus: ut sublimitas sit virtutis Dei, et non ex nobis. ```

2019-07-12 20:57:20 UTC  

Much better

2019-07-12 20:58:02 UTC  

If I'm gonna quote scripture I want to make sure no one can understand it like a good papist

2019-07-12 20:58:21 UTC  

lel

2019-07-12 20:59:47 UTC  

If you aren't reading it in the original LATIN like God intended you JUST aren't going to get as much out of it

2019-07-12 21:00:46 UTC  

Original Latin?

2019-07-12 21:01:03 UTC  

>not reading the nt in koine greek