@Orrbit all i could do for you was web searched
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I don’t see why us as Catholics couldn’t honor a saint in the Orthodox Churches. We’re brother churches after all

Save for the few major theological differences and cultural differences, were pretty much the same.

Isn’t it sanctioned that we can receive communion validly from an Orthodox Church if the bishop over them is fine with it and they can receive communion from us?

Then why not honor their saints as well even if you don’t ask for their intercession.

we can only receive communion if we can't get to a Catholic church

but their sacraments are valid, yeah

also, we do share most of the saints since a lot of them come from before the schism

Ye

And I see

Thanks for the reminder on the communion thing

@AP-1138 because they are schismatics and outside of salvation by nature of schism. It's not hard to understand.

We don't share most saints because most saints were proclaimed in the past few centuries.

And most of that in the past 50 years

And we'd call a few major theological differences heresy in a number of issues, for example many deny divine simplicity

aren't coptics Monophysites?

And as thee Church has defined a number of dogmas since, they at least partially deny those.

Honestly, from my talks with an orca-dog I know (not in /cult/), most of the differences between us and them are semantic and cultural. They're just autistic and insist that their big Greek words are better and more true than our big Latin words. My EO friend agrees, as does his priest.

what do your EO mates think about the Papacy?

Do they accept papal infallibility for example? Because that's a dogma and it's far from cultural.

yeah thats a big one

Or take the council of trent, see how they feel about many of those.

or like any council after the schism for that matter

Fillioque is major as well

For example that the Catholic Church can punnish heretics and schismatics by death.

I know about all of that

do Eastern Catholics acknowledge filioque?

That's a bit more complicated. They don't like most of the popes themselves, or how much power the pope has. That said, my buddy at least thinks Orthodoxy would benefit from a similar system.

But at the same time, if it’s possible, I should like to see us reconciled with each other

Orthodoxy invented a lot of post hoc anti thomist theology to justify schism

Which is the filioque

funny, Orthodoxy used to benefit from it when it was Catholic

Reconciliation is only one, which is submission to the Catholic Church. Anything else is a farce.

I’m aware

But they’ll never agree to it

Probably not on the whole, especially before Catholicism retakes politics power. Orthodoxy is easy to control with politics, be it Poland, the Sultan or Stalin.

The Orthodox don't like the filioque because they think it creates a subordinate role for the Holy Spirit, which in their view breaks the unity of the Trinity. I've been trying to come up with a good argument to counter that claim, but the EO are more mystery focused, making it difficult to formulate a convincing rational argument.

Most Eastern rite Catholics are Ukrainian, descending from those who converted during Polish rule.

True

Economic and political power play a major role in shaping that

Mystery focused is a fun way of saying bad at high level theology 😂