Message from @Orrbit

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2019-04-22 15:53:55 UTC  

Most of my mini shrine is ortho stuff

2019-04-22 16:58:34 UTC  

i think it's acceptable if it depicts a saint canonized by the catholic church

2019-04-22 16:59:06 UTC  

but it's wrong if the saint depicted is not a catholic saint

2019-04-22 17:02:24 UTC  

ah gotcha gotcha

2019-04-22 22:07:14 UTC  

question

2019-04-22 22:07:25 UTC  

is Constantine a saint in the RCC

2019-04-22 23:28:50 UTC  

@Crux I want to say yes

2019-04-22 23:36:58 UTC  

I've heard both yes and no

2019-04-22 23:37:05 UTC  

No mostly from Latin Rite

2019-04-22 23:37:30 UTC  

Every single Eastern Rite Catholic I have asked has given me a very convincing yes

2019-04-22 23:38:06 UTC  

While the Latin Rite Caths I've asked vary between "I think", "probably", "maybe" and "no because he was baptized arian"

2019-04-23 01:04:49 UTC  

There's no veneration at all in the Roman Church but if the Eastern Churches are fully Catholic too then surely that means he is a Saint?

2019-04-23 03:09:24 UTC  

that's my thoughts too @Orrbit

2019-04-23 11:59:30 UTC  

anyone know a good place to buy chapel veils, online or otherwise? My newly baptised gf wants one. I'm in Aus.

2019-04-23 17:56:57 UTC  
2019-04-23 22:43:41 UTC  

I don’t see why us as Catholics couldn’t honor a saint in the Orthodox Churches. We’re brother churches after all

2019-04-23 22:44:17 UTC  

Save for the few major theological differences and cultural differences, were pretty much the same.

2019-04-23 22:45:14 UTC  

Isn’t it sanctioned that we can receive communion validly from an Orthodox Church if the bishop over them is fine with it and they can receive communion from us?

2019-04-23 22:45:39 UTC  

Then why not honor their saints as well even if you don’t ask for their intercession.

2019-04-23 22:47:04 UTC  

we can only receive communion if we can't get to a Catholic church

2019-04-23 22:47:13 UTC  

but their sacraments are valid, yeah

2019-04-23 22:47:35 UTC  

also, we do share most of the saints since a lot of them come from before the schism

2019-04-23 22:49:17 UTC  

Ye

2019-04-23 22:53:33 UTC  

And I see

2019-04-23 22:53:44 UTC  

Thanks for the reminder on the communion thing

2019-04-23 23:18:25 UTC  

@AP-1138 because they are schismatics and outside of salvation by nature of schism. It's not hard to understand.

2019-04-23 23:19:00 UTC  

We don't share most saints because most saints were proclaimed in the past few centuries.

2019-04-23 23:19:53 UTC  

And most of that in the past 50 years

2019-04-23 23:21:04 UTC  

And we'd call a few major theological differences heresy in a number of issues, for example many deny divine simplicity

2019-04-23 23:21:29 UTC  

aren't coptics Monophysites?

2019-04-23 23:21:55 UTC  

And as thee Church has defined a number of dogmas since, they at least partially deny those.

2019-04-23 23:22:05 UTC  

Honestly, from my talks with an orca-dog I know (not in /cult/), most of the differences between us and them are semantic and cultural. They're just autistic and insist that their big Greek words are better and more true than our big Latin words. My EO friend agrees, as does his priest.

2019-04-23 23:22:59 UTC  

what do your EO mates think about the Papacy?

2019-04-23 23:23:43 UTC  

Do they accept papal infallibility for example? Because that's a dogma and it's far from cultural.

2019-04-23 23:23:55 UTC  

yeah thats a big one

2019-04-23 23:24:07 UTC  

Or take the council of trent, see how they feel about many of those.

2019-04-23 23:24:22 UTC  

or like any council after the schism for that matter

2019-04-23 23:24:31 UTC  

Fillioque is major as well

2019-04-23 23:24:37 UTC  

For example that the Catholic Church can punnish heretics and schismatics by death.

2019-04-23 23:24:37 UTC  

I know about all of that

2019-04-23 23:24:57 UTC  

do Eastern Catholics acknowledge filioque?