@Orrbit what exactly is a plenary indulgence?

@LuxCo are you familiar with the concept of indulgences in general?

All sins are forgiven I believe?

not quite

well, the ones that can be forgiven

so, our sins are forgiven by nature of Christs sacrifice on the cross, the effects of which we get through the sacraments

so the guilt of your sins are totally forgiven in Baptism/confession

however, the effects of your sins are not

Even my repeated "impure" offenses?

masturbation?

yup

if you are truly repentant at the time of confession, yes

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ah understood.

so, the effects of your sins are like: say you killed someone (I know its an extreme example), you can be forgiven totally and all guilt is gone from your soul, but somewhere there is still a family without a dad whose gonna be affected by what you've done forever and you still need to account for that

true

Pretty sure that regarding masturbation it's self harm though

Oh okay right right

that made alot of sense thanks

usually this is partly what we undergo in Purgatory, its burning away the effects of sin on our souls that we didn't quite detach from even though we repented, but also making reparation/suffering the consequences of our effects

but

since the Church has the authority to bind and to loose, under special circumstances we can get indulgences which relieve us from this

so essentially, if you obtain a plenary indulgence, until you commit another sin, you will not go through purgatory if you die

the conditions are, you must be in a state of grace, receive communion on that day, go to confession within 8 days before or after, pray for the Pope's intentions and do whatever action the specific indulgence states

so for example, this Sunday you pray the prayers associated with the Divine Mercy devotion (chaplet etc) or pray an Our Father, Creed and a devout prayer trusting in Jesus' mercy in front of the tabernacle

oh and complete detachment from affection to sin

which is probably the hardest one to do

okay i see now

thank you for clearing that up

this may sound like a stupid question, cause earlier the enemies of the church were brought up, how is freemasonry an enemy to God's Holy Church?

Theres a million different reasons but the essential point as that they are Jews, but not as we have come to identify them. They act in accordance with Jewish principles and are run, and organised by, Jews. They follow Jewish rituals and subvert in accordance with Jewish doctrine

Its Jewish ritualism cloaked in gnosticism so the goys can get involved too

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Higher members are also probably invoked with the Occult

And Mary revealed to one of the saints that freemasons aren’t exactly greeted by the angels of God when they die.

gonna be honest, was interested in the masons in the past

but if thats the case then idk

as a kid I was intrigued because I knew nothing about them and they seemed like some sort of edgy secret society

but even my boomeresque catholic mum knew they were evil

id been told by people they're basically a club of rich people who help each other with stuff

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