Message from @Mozalbete ⳩

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2019-04-25 18:47:02 UTC  

lol

2019-04-25 19:58:17 UTC  

Oof South American Catholicism is basically its own heretical cult, I don't even consider it part of the greater Church. I can get down with Catholicism in its european pure form, but it's so far gone down there they're worshipping fucking Santa Muerte, and not even the pope can get them to stop

2019-04-25 20:00:41 UTC  

Plus, it's my belief they're to blame for all the bullshit constantly coming out about Mary.
Honestly if that stuff could be settled I could probably be down with begoming caddligg XD
But it will never be, because the heresy is too strong and the church isn't based enough to have inquisitions anymore

2019-04-25 20:01:58 UTC  

BEGUM ORDODOGS

2019-04-25 20:02:52 UTC  

Mexico is North America

2019-04-25 20:03:33 UTC  

And I yearn for the re-establishment of El Santo Oficio as well

2019-04-25 20:05:35 UTC  

Nah fam, Marian stuff is just as sketch in the ortho tradition too, plus I'm not a fan of the mysticism that seems pretty pervasive as well

2019-04-25 20:06:00 UTC  

Also Mexico doesn't count as civilized continent, SA can keep it

2019-04-25 20:09:08 UTC  

They're just geographical things, and yes I don't get the obsession either

2019-04-25 20:09:27 UTC  

>this nigga doesnt venerate the Theotokos

2019-04-25 20:09:53 UTC  

Ave...

2019-04-25 20:10:11 UTC  

>patriarch

2019-04-25 20:10:13 UTC  

meme word

2019-04-25 21:10:24 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452069937305878530/571080597968125952/IMG_20190414_133042.jpg

2019-04-25 21:13:11 UTC  

Southamerica and Mexico go far beyond mere veneration, but if we were to be triggered into disdain by the retardation of whatever group, we wouldn't even be christians

2019-04-25 21:16:43 UTC  

I just don’t get why those practices are not outlawed

2019-04-25 21:17:20 UTC  

Witches outside churches even demand that you don’t take pictures because it “scares the spirits”

2019-04-25 21:17:41 UTC  

It’s probably so they don’t get reported

2019-04-25 21:18:13 UTC  

WHEN I FINALLY GET
TO GO FISHING

2019-04-25 21:33:43 UTC  

I understand plain veneration, Bible is clear Mary was blessed among women, regardless of assumption or immaculate conception, or any other theological point of contention. She's not on par with Jesus, and even the sects that don't go full heresy claiming co-redemptrix still treat her with far more than her due.

2019-04-25 21:35:04 UTC  

The word co-redemptrix doesn't have to have a meaning as big as you are imagining

2019-04-25 21:35:04 UTC  

Strictly speaking, Mary should be a minor figure at the foot of the cross regardless of any miraculous gifts given to her

2019-04-25 21:35:47 UTC  

From what I've heard from those who ascribe to that way of thought, it does

2019-04-25 21:36:59 UTC  

I talked to a girl a few months ago who basically said she viewed Mary as God instead of Jesus because it's "hard for her to trust men," and she had a fucking breakdown when I told her that was super heretical

2019-04-25 21:37:44 UTC  

That is why I agree that in many places things have completely gotten out of hand

2019-04-25 21:39:27 UTC  

She was blessed, she was not an aspect of God, and she died for no sins. Memorial is good, she was important in the life of Jesus, but in the redemption story she's not that significant, and that's ok

2019-04-25 21:39:28 UTC  

Latin America as a whole has trash pagan influences all over

2019-04-25 21:39:38 UTC  

Ehhhhjj

2019-04-25 21:39:50 UTC  

She's pretty important to the redemption story man

2019-04-25 21:39:58 UTC  

I think he means

2019-04-25 21:40:01 UTC  

I mean, physically yes

2019-04-25 21:40:22 UTC  

In the sense of having some nature or aspect that enables redemption

2019-04-25 21:40:30 UTC  

She's like #2 in importance

2019-04-25 21:40:32 UTC  

Oh, yeah

2019-04-25 21:40:56 UTC  

After Jesus

2019-04-25 21:41:01 UTC  

But narratively she's a very minor character, there wasn't all that much we were meant to draw from her beyond the story of the conception and birth of christ, and some tidbits after

2019-04-25 21:41:02 UTC  

I assume we're talking people here

2019-04-25 21:41:17 UTC  

Yeah, but historically those parts have been given a very high importance

2019-04-25 21:41:40 UTC  

Especially with the interpretation of Revelation's Woman

2019-04-25 21:42:46 UTC  

John, Paul, Peter, all vastly outweigh her in biblical importance. Having a small role doesn't make her any less vital, but there are a lot of figures in the Bible like that.

2019-04-25 21:43:52 UTC  

I would disagree. They are important so far as the message goes for Christianity, but the significance of being picked to raise God as your child is far more significant IMO and the fathers agree with me