Message from @Quarantine_Zone

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2019-04-04 23:42:20 UTC  

This is explained easily when you draw from the original source of the quote which is a 1536 sermon (WA 41, 647).

2019-04-04 23:52:46 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/563511313876385802/Screenshot_20190404-195228_Discord.jpg

2019-04-04 23:53:39 UTC  

Lol how do I respond to that

2019-04-04 23:54:43 UTC  

What are some good books and articles on Legionarism?

2019-04-04 23:56:11 UTC  

For My Legionaries

2019-04-04 23:56:45 UTC  

lmao sauce on your profile picture?

2019-04-04 23:57:07 UTC  

is that an edit?

2019-04-04 23:58:37 UTC  

You talking to me?

2019-04-04 23:58:44 UTC  

yes.

2019-04-04 23:59:13 UTC  

No lol, that's from a real episode of Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated

2019-04-05 00:13:00 UTC  

I remember that episode

2019-04-05 00:13:14 UTC  

I liked that bit the armour on the dudes looked cool

2019-04-05 00:50:35 UTC  

http://www.kolumbus.fi/aquilon/revolution.pdf Skip to page 29 and read this

2019-04-05 01:31:16 UTC  

@cqc there is no response. The fathers are in vast disagreement

2019-04-05 01:31:54 UTC  

There is no way to reconcile Jerome and Bede or Augustine and Chrysostom

2019-04-05 01:32:05 UTC  

Among many other conflicts

2019-04-05 01:32:36 UTC  

The three things on which the fathers agree universally are real presence, baptismal regeneration, and apostasy

2019-04-05 01:33:13 UTC  

And if you're honest with scriptures and don't try to shove it into a system, I believe you will indeed come to the same conclusions

2019-04-05 02:18:27 UTC  

Idk denom this guy is, but if he's Lutheran, then your only out is to debate Nicaea II

2019-04-05 02:18:43 UTC  

For Reformed, hit them with the above three things I mentioned

2019-04-05 02:19:07 UTC  

Same for Wesleyans, Remonstrants, and Anglicans

2019-04-05 02:19:49 UTC  

Moravians will be in the same boat as Lutherans, affirming the first 6 councils, Baptismal Regeneration, Real Presence, and apostasy

2019-04-05 02:20:31 UTC  

But tbh, RCC doesn't follow 6th council because they don't affirm energy-essence

2019-04-05 04:29:05 UTC  
2019-04-05 06:07:21 UTC  

@Quarantine_Zone >And if you're honest with scriptures and don't try to shove it into a system, I believe you will indeed come to the same conclusions

We both know this isn't true

2019-04-05 06:08:17 UTC  

And please, considering you glorify a fat apostate who married a nun, refrain from trying to judge who follows councils

2019-04-05 06:08:33 UTC  

What do you mean? I was speaking entirely of things upon which we agree

2019-04-05 06:08:49 UTC  

People don't come to the same conclusions

2019-04-05 06:08:51 UTC  

We agree in real presence, baptismal regeneration, and apostasy

2019-04-05 06:09:13 UTC  

And you'd be hard pressed to find a single father that disagrees

2019-04-05 06:10:11 UTC  

Tertullian is the only one you could take to believe in "spiritual presence" in communion, but even that is questionable

2019-04-05 06:10:23 UTC  

I don't see how that is related at all to what I ahve said

2019-04-05 06:10:44 UTC  

I am only speaking of reading the fathers honestly

2019-04-05 06:10:49 UTC  

And none more

2019-04-05 06:11:19 UTC  

aaah ok

2019-04-05 06:11:34 UTC  

The fathers agree on those three points.

2019-04-05 06:11:42 UTC  

Lest you twist them horribly

2019-04-05 06:13:49 UTC  

And the energy-essence distinction is affirmed at the sixth council

2019-04-05 06:14:05 UTC  

Again, I'm just trying to be honest with the fathers here

2019-04-05 06:14:32 UTC  

The council is very clear on this matter. The doctrine is affirmed on two separate occasions at the council

2019-04-05 06:14:55 UTC  

Can you quote what part of the council is supposed to be somehow rejected by cahtolics?