Message from @Quarantine_Zone
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So, yes, it is taken out of context because Luther didn't say it as himself. He was impersonating an ancient Jew to show how they accused and thought of Jesus.
This is explained easily when you draw from the original source of the quote which is a 1536 sermon (WA 41, 647).
Lol how do I respond to that
What are some good books and articles on Legionarism?
For My Legionaries
lmao sauce on your profile picture?
is that an edit?
You talking to me?
yes.
No lol, that's from a real episode of Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated
I remember that episode
I liked that bit the armour on the dudes looked cool
http://www.kolumbus.fi/aquilon/revolution.pdf Skip to page 29 and read this
@cqc there is no response. The fathers are in vast disagreement
There is no way to reconcile Jerome and Bede or Augustine and Chrysostom
Among many other conflicts
The three things on which the fathers agree universally are real presence, baptismal regeneration, and apostasy
And if you're honest with scriptures and don't try to shove it into a system, I believe you will indeed come to the same conclusions
Idk denom this guy is, but if he's Lutheran, then your only out is to debate Nicaea II
Same for Wesleyans, Remonstrants, and Anglicans
Moravians will be in the same boat as Lutherans, affirming the first 6 councils, Baptismal Regeneration, Real Presence, and apostasy
But tbh, RCC doesn't follow 6th council because they don't affirm energy-essence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-RzGAsytfQ This is an important video
@Quarantine_Zone >And if you're honest with scriptures and don't try to shove it into a system, I believe you will indeed come to the same conclusions
We both know this isn't true
And please, considering you glorify a fat apostate who married a nun, refrain from trying to judge who follows councils
What do you mean? I was speaking entirely of things upon which we agree
People don't come to the same conclusions
We agree in real presence, baptismal regeneration, and apostasy
And you'd be hard pressed to find a single father that disagrees
Tertullian is the only one you could take to believe in "spiritual presence" in communion, but even that is questionable
I don't see how that is related at all to what I ahve said
I am only speaking of reading the fathers honestly
And none more
aaah ok
The fathers agree on those three points.
Lest you twist them horribly
And the energy-essence distinction is affirmed at the sixth council
Again, I'm just trying to be honest with the fathers here
The council is very clear on this matter. The doctrine is affirmed on two separate occasions at the council