Message from @Jay Dubya

Discord ID: 574803695670132737


2019-05-06 03:40:55 UTC  

I refuse to watch because I already know the answer.

2019-05-06 03:41:01 UTC  

1v4, yes it was totally us who broke off lmao

2019-05-06 03:41:09 UTC  

unironically yes

2019-05-06 03:41:21 UTC  

mainly because 4/5 Sees were connected to Byzantium

2019-05-06 03:41:42 UTC  

mfw eastern liturgies cool now with Supreme Pontiff, whos reuniting who now

2019-05-06 03:42:11 UTC  

I respect you lads a lot, but being blind to history is just a meme

2019-05-06 03:42:23 UTC  

"Hey we never agreed to add the filioque to the Creed, you cant just do that it violates the canons"

"Fuck yall I do what I want, I'm the pope"

2019-05-06 03:42:30 UTC  

And so schism happened.

2019-05-06 03:43:00 UTC  

oversimplifying

2019-05-06 03:43:08 UTC  

Is it though?

2019-05-06 03:43:12 UTC  

yes

2019-05-06 03:43:13 UTC  

Let's purposefully ignore the fact that the eastern Sees were eager to ditch Rome

2019-05-06 03:43:19 UTC  

okay only because i dont know much about the subject. I heard theologically it was necesary.

2019-05-06 03:43:28 UTC  

It's a distinction

2019-05-06 03:44:05 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/574803549662478346/FB_IMG_1556683171174.jpg

2019-05-06 03:44:18 UTC  

im kidding

2019-05-06 03:44:25 UTC  

It was to combat Arianism which was popping up in Iberia

2019-05-06 03:44:33 UTC  

No it wasn't

2019-05-06 03:44:39 UTC  

we got all your cool liturgies too

2019-05-06 03:44:40 UTC  

Literally was

2019-05-06 03:44:50 UTC  

Arianism was stopped on an earlier date and I even have a book about that, excuse me for a minute

2019-05-06 03:45:05 UTC  

omg i guess i gotta drop the predator missle

2019-05-06 03:45:07 UTC  

Bruh theres aryan churches out there today

2019-05-06 03:45:57 UTC  

*predator missle incoming*
https://youtu.be/_Rrzo55G364

2019-05-06 03:46:18 UTC  

Regardless of why the Creed was changed, it was changed without consent of the other Patriarchs, without a council, done completely uncanonically

2019-05-06 03:46:59 UTC  

besides comsent was it not necesary?

2019-05-06 03:48:00 UTC  

Yes, following the laws of the church is necessary

2019-05-06 03:48:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/574804535311335424/image1.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/574804536443666432/image0.jpg

2019-05-06 03:48:33 UTC  

stopped in the council of Nicaea

2019-05-06 03:48:39 UTC  

325 ad

2019-05-06 03:49:13 UTC  

Officially condemned in Nicea yes

2019-05-06 03:49:43 UTC  

bruh, east-west happened in 1054

2019-05-06 03:49:51 UTC  

It was officially condemned as heresy, but as I said, there are still adherents to Arianism today

2019-05-06 03:50:03 UTC  

and?

2019-05-06 03:50:12 UTC  

Yeah, we condemn heresy but that doesn't mean it stops.

2019-05-06 03:50:35 UTC  

So there were adherents popping up in Iberia ~500 years later

2019-05-06 03:50:40 UTC  

You said that Filioque was established to combat Arrianism

2019-05-06 03:50:57 UTC  

Correct, at the council of Toledo

2019-05-06 03:51:00 UTC  

Council of Constantinople

2019-05-06 03:51:06 UTC  

381 AD