Message from @Jay Dubya
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I refuse to watch because I already know the answer.
1v4, yes it was totally us who broke off lmao
unironically yes
mainly because 4/5 Sees were connected to Byzantium
mfw eastern liturgies cool now with Supreme Pontiff, whos reuniting who now
I respect you lads a lot, but being blind to history is just a meme
"Hey we never agreed to add the filioque to the Creed, you cant just do that it violates the canons"
"Fuck yall I do what I want, I'm the pope"
And so schism happened.
oversimplifying
Is it though?
yes
Let's purposefully ignore the fact that the eastern Sees were eager to ditch Rome
okay only because i dont know much about the subject. I heard theologically it was necesary.
It's a distinction
im kidding
It was to combat Arianism which was popping up in Iberia
No it wasn't
we got all your cool liturgies too
Arianism was stopped on an earlier date and I even have a book about that, excuse me for a minute
omg i guess i gotta drop the predator missle
Bruh theres aryan churches out there today
*predator missle incoming*
https://youtu.be/_Rrzo55G364
Regardless of why the Creed was changed, it was changed without consent of the other Patriarchs, without a council, done completely uncanonically
besides comsent was it not necesary?
Yes, following the laws of the church is necessary
stopped in the council of Nicaea
325 ad
Officially condemned in Nicea yes
bruh, east-west happened in 1054
It was officially condemned as heresy, but as I said, there are still adherents to Arianism today
and?
Yeah, we condemn heresy but that doesn't mean it stops.
So there were adherents popping up in Iberia ~500 years later
You said that Filioque was established to combat Arrianism
Correct, at the council of Toledo
Council of Constantinople
381 AD


