Message from @Mozalbete ⳩
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So purgatory would correspond to that purification, for those who are already forgiven and saved
Purgatory is evidenced in maccabees Remus and Jesus himself references it
Genesis 3:6
**Genesis 3:6 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
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<6> So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate; and she also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate. ```
Why do I need to hurt before I enter heaven?
No, there are 7 councils all Orthodox Churches agree upon. Anyone who doesnt is a heretic
@Iakovos A good judgment is the best thing EVER...literally there is nothing better than a just judgment. There is no healing that is better.
So you may know joy
God is just and good
Ah yes, the three tricks of sin. Contains some good, seems attractive, seems reasonable
Purgatory is a thing the Catholics made up.
Holy fucm
@Iakovos Hurt? We are talking about purification, whic at times is described as purifying fire
What about the Coptic orthodox?
All over patristics you can find references to the purification required for Heaven
Purification is scary but not bad
They aren't orthodox, despite what they name themselves
"All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven."
Orthodox AND CATHOLICS DISAGREEING ARE AUTISTIC. REVIVAL OF CHALCEDONIAN CHRISTIANS WHEN
Same as Ortiental "orthodox"
"The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.606 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire"
FROM A PROTESTANT
"Of the elect"
It is only bad if everything you build was corrupt...then almost all of you will be burnt away in it.
Sounds like Calvnism
Of those who attain salvation lmao
Do orthodox believe in purgatory?
No
Wow
I bet you can find prety much the same with different words
Orthodox gets better and better.
Is God's grace not good enough?
Do yall pray to Mary?
What do you think allows the purificaiton in pugatory lmao?
You can pray to any saint, the Theotokos is not excluded
You talk about purgatory as if it was something external to God
Why do you pray to saints and not to God?
P. sure God doesnt want us to suffer
Matthew 5:25-26
**Matthew 5:25-26 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
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<25> Come to terms quickly with your accuser while you are on the way to court with him, or your accuser may hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the guard, and you will be thrown into prison. <26> Truly I tell you, you will never get out until you have paid the last penny. ```
You pray to God as well silly billy