Message from @Mozalbete ⳩

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2019-05-18 14:31:35 UTC  

So purgatory would correspond to that purification, for those who are already forgiven and saved

2019-05-18 14:31:50 UTC  

Purgatory is evidenced in maccabees Remus and Jesus himself references it

2019-05-18 14:32:04 UTC  

Genesis 3:6

2019-05-18 14:32:06 UTC  

**Genesis 3:6 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<6> So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate; and she also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate. ```

2019-05-18 14:32:56 UTC  

Why do I need to hurt before I enter heaven?

2019-05-18 14:33:06 UTC  

No, there are 7 councils all Orthodox Churches agree upon. Anyone who doesnt is a heretic

2019-05-18 14:33:07 UTC  

@Iakovos A good judgment is the best thing EVER...literally there is nothing better than a just judgment. There is no healing that is better.

2019-05-18 14:33:10 UTC  

So you may know joy

2019-05-18 14:33:18 UTC  

God is just and good

2019-05-18 14:33:24 UTC  

Ah yes, the three tricks of sin. Contains some good, seems attractive, seems reasonable

2019-05-18 14:33:32 UTC  

Purgatory is a thing the Catholics made up.

2019-05-18 14:33:33 UTC  

Holy fucm

2019-05-18 14:33:35 UTC  

@Iakovos Hurt? We are talking about purification, whic at times is described as purifying fire

2019-05-18 14:33:43 UTC  

What about the Coptic orthodox?

2019-05-18 14:33:50 UTC  

All over patristics you can find references to the purification required for Heaven

2019-05-18 14:33:52 UTC  

Purification is scary but not bad

2019-05-18 14:33:58 UTC  

They aren't orthodox, despite what they name themselves

2019-05-18 14:34:03 UTC  

"All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven."

2019-05-18 14:34:04 UTC  

Orthodox AND CATHOLICS DISAGREEING ARE AUTISTIC. REVIVAL OF CHALCEDONIAN CHRISTIANS WHEN

2019-05-18 14:34:11 UTC  

Same as Ortiental "orthodox"

2019-05-18 14:34:13 UTC  

"The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.606 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire"

2019-05-18 14:34:16 UTC  

FROM A PROTESTANT

2019-05-18 14:34:29 UTC  

"Of the elect"

2019-05-18 14:34:31 UTC  

It is only bad if everything you build was corrupt...then almost all of you will be burnt away in it.

2019-05-18 14:34:36 UTC  

Sounds like Calvnism

2019-05-18 14:34:47 UTC  

Of those who attain salvation lmao

2019-05-18 14:35:03 UTC  

Do orthodox believe in purgatory?

2019-05-18 14:35:08 UTC  

No

2019-05-18 14:35:13 UTC  

Wow

2019-05-18 14:35:15 UTC  

I bet you can find prety much the same with different words

2019-05-18 14:35:19 UTC  

Orthodox gets better and better.

2019-05-18 14:35:21 UTC  

Is God's grace not good enough?

2019-05-18 14:35:25 UTC  

Do yall pray to Mary?

2019-05-18 14:35:40 UTC  

What do you think allows the purificaiton in pugatory lmao?

2019-05-18 14:35:43 UTC  

You can pray to any saint, the Theotokos is not excluded

2019-05-18 14:35:55 UTC  

You talk about purgatory as if it was something external to God

2019-05-18 14:35:57 UTC  

Why do you pray to saints and not to God?

2019-05-18 14:35:59 UTC  

P. sure God doesnt want us to suffer

2019-05-18 14:36:00 UTC  

Matthew 5:25-26

2019-05-18 14:36:01 UTC  

**Matthew 5:25-26 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<25> Come to terms quickly with your accuser while you are on the way to court with him, or your accuser may hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the guard, and you will be thrown into prison. <26> Truly I tell you, you will never get out until you have paid the last penny. ```

2019-05-18 14:36:10 UTC  

You pray to God as well silly billy