Message from @Iakovos

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2019-05-18 14:34:47 UTC  

Of those who attain salvation lmao

2019-05-18 14:35:03 UTC  

Do orthodox believe in purgatory?

2019-05-18 14:35:08 UTC  

No

2019-05-18 14:35:13 UTC  

Wow

2019-05-18 14:35:15 UTC  

I bet you can find prety much the same with different words

2019-05-18 14:35:19 UTC  

Orthodox gets better and better.

2019-05-18 14:35:21 UTC  

Is God's grace not good enough?

2019-05-18 14:35:25 UTC  

Do yall pray to Mary?

2019-05-18 14:35:40 UTC  

What do you think allows the purificaiton in pugatory lmao?

2019-05-18 14:35:43 UTC  

You can pray to any saint, the Theotokos is not excluded

2019-05-18 14:35:55 UTC  

You talk about purgatory as if it was something external to God

2019-05-18 14:35:57 UTC  

Why do you pray to saints and not to God?

2019-05-18 14:35:59 UTC  

P. sure God doesnt want us to suffer

2019-05-18 14:36:00 UTC  

Matthew 5:25-26

2019-05-18 14:36:01 UTC  

**Matthew 5:25-26 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<25> Come to terms quickly with your accuser while you are on the way to court with him, or your accuser may hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the guard, and you will be thrown into prison. <26> Truly I tell you, you will never get out until you have paid the last penny. ```

2019-05-18 14:36:10 UTC  

You pray to God as well silly billy

2019-05-18 14:36:22 UTC  

+search purgatory

2019-05-18 14:36:23 UTC  

2019-05-18 14:36:29 UTC  

Sure God doesn't want us to deny the purified state that Heaven requires

2019-05-18 14:36:30 UTC  

The orthos have the theotokos

2019-05-18 14:36:31 UTC  

I think I want to visit Orthodox mass

2019-05-18 14:36:34 UTC  

Praying to saints means you ask the saints to pray for you, you dont worship them

2019-05-18 14:36:41 UTC  

Catholics have too many issues and traditions of men.

2019-05-18 14:36:54 UTC  

BEGUM ORDODOG

2019-05-18 14:36:59 UTC  

@Iakovos wear comfy shoes, most orthodox churches don't have pews

2019-05-18 14:37:01 UTC  

Catholics import too many muslims

2019-05-18 14:37:07 UTC  

Lmao ur mum is a tradition of men

2019-05-18 14:37:56 UTC  

Weird russian man, that is perfect.

2019-05-18 14:38:04 UTC  

Good early church tradition

2019-05-18 14:38:10 UTC  

No pews

2019-05-18 14:38:17 UTC  

After all, why do you think we pray for the dead?

2019-05-18 14:38:27 UTC  

Remus are you from the south in the US

2019-05-18 14:38:34 UTC  

All 3000+ protestant faiths are, by definition, traditions of men

2019-05-18 14:38:56 UTC  

@Mozalbete ⳩ Why would you pray for the dead?

2019-05-18 14:38:59 UTC  

Praying for the dead does nothing if there is no purgatory

2019-05-18 14:39:15 UTC  

Yes it does.

2019-05-18 14:39:16 UTC  

But it's specifically mentioned in macabees

2019-05-18 14:39:18 UTC  

Yes

2019-05-18 14:39:22 UTC  

I just want to prep you. I went to orthodox church in south in US and it was but shocking as women didnt veils etc

2019-05-18 14:39:25 UTC  

"This teaching is also based on the practice of prayer for the dead, already mentioned in Sacred Scripture: "Therefore [Judas Maccabeus] made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin."609 From the beginning the Church has honored the memory of the dead and offered prayers in suffrage for them, above all the Eucharistic sacrifice, so that, thus purified, they may attain the beatific vision of God.610 The Church also commends almsgiving, indulgences, and works of penance undertaken on behalf of the dead:"

2019-05-18 14:39:27 UTC  

I am from Tennnessee