Message from @Hepic

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2019-05-18 16:02:45 UTC  

It is almost impossible to know if something has been altered. I have a number of copies of the Book of Enoch in PDF format and one of them in the Prophecy of Weeks completely alters the entire structure of the prophecy, without footnoting it (to exclude Christ completely). It takes the Prophecy of Christ and puts it at then end of the Weeks. It is translated by a jewish man. I found that if you didn't go word by word in the language of the writings origin that you would never know if it had been altered or not (there are good translations of most works, if you know a scholar; but with something as touchy as the future Theocracy of the planet you can pretty much assume that most are altered to fit a specific 'interest'). So for the Bible it is best to go to the original docs and then word by word, studying and educating yourself...but since the Maccabees are historic record I did not delve as closely into them as I did other more relevant works.

2019-05-18 16:12:40 UTC  

For example the Greek word when addressing Mary in the Angelic Salutation is closest to full of grace instead of highly blessed one, but full of grace still doesn't quite fit what was meant

2019-05-18 16:15:16 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/579341245751623711/FB_IMG_1558196057294.jpg

2019-05-18 16:23:09 UTC  

That is one of the most poignant things about translation, it can move the goalpost significantly even if it is the authors best effort.

2019-05-18 16:35:24 UTC  

If I remember right the word is in a weird tense that means most exactly "always full of grace, past, present, and future"

2019-05-18 16:45:24 UTC  

κεχαριτωμένη is in a feminine perfect past tense, so "being in full grace from the past all the way to now" is what it means

2019-05-18 16:46:35 UTC  

And the way angel says it echos name changes is the old testament like Abrahm to Abraham

2019-05-18 16:55:30 UTC  

@Iakovos Maccabees are Bible books on the Jewish revolt, sorta like the Bible version of 300, some of the most badass stuff ever written

2019-05-18 17:00:45 UTC  

oy

2019-05-18 17:00:59 UTC  

Game of Thrones fans are petitioning them to rewrite season 8, my sides

2019-05-18 17:06:29 UTC  

It's all just tits and dragons.

2019-05-18 17:07:06 UTC  

All the dragons are ded though

2019-05-18 17:07:12 UTC  

except one

2019-05-18 17:07:32 UTC  

🤷🏻‍♂️

2019-05-18 17:07:53 UTC  

Imagine getting a chance to resurrect an extinct species of fire-breathing war machines and you kill them all because you're too retarded to know how to lead properly

2019-05-18 17:08:33 UTC  

Historical > Fantasy

2019-05-18 17:09:11 UTC  

I mean some classical fantasy is pretty good

2019-05-18 17:09:17 UTC  

Elric is good

2019-05-18 17:09:43 UTC  

fantasy isn't bad but id say historical is far superior

2019-05-18 17:10:21 UTC  

tolkein btfo every gay ass fantasy lmao

2019-05-18 17:10:29 UTC  

^

2019-05-18 17:10:38 UTC  

Why do they want to re-write it?

2019-05-18 17:10:55 UTC  

Gay RR Martin is a shit writer who spends three pages talking about dicks

2019-05-18 17:11:24 UTC  

Literally there's one point where there's like, a page and a half description, of one of the character's dicks. It's really, really, weird.

2019-05-18 17:11:59 UTC  

imagine writing fantasy and including FAGGOTS

2019-05-18 17:12:06 UTC  

Yikes

2019-05-18 17:12:32 UTC  

Imagine writing fantasy and including woman rulers

2019-05-18 17:12:39 UTC  

lmao

2019-05-18 17:12:58 UTC  

Then again, the women rulers fuck everything up and destroy the entire kingdom, so I guess it's accurate

2019-05-18 17:14:30 UTC  

women rulers not particularly bad most in history had an army of men advising them

2019-05-18 17:15:06 UTC  

now giving all women political power Big Time Yikes

2019-05-18 17:15:40 UTC  

Oh yeah, Daenerys went crazy so fans are pissed about that too. Especially the female fans that thought Daenerys was STRONG AND FIIIIERCE

2019-05-18 17:16:38 UTC  

lol

2019-05-18 17:16:50 UTC  

Also the Night King came all the way to the wall just to get fucking stabbed by Arya with no effort.

2019-05-18 17:17:04 UTC  

So yeah, I guess that plot point's wrapped up, good job guis

2019-05-18 17:19:15 UTC  

Seriously I thought season 8 was going to be bad, but holy shit, this is worse than I ever could have expected

2019-05-18 17:21:09 UTC  

I don't know, Daenerys sounds surprisingly similar to St. Olga of Kiev

2019-05-18 17:21:32 UTC  

....how

2019-05-18 17:22:23 UTC  

St. Olga of Kiev did not take her husband's death well to say the least

2019-05-18 17:23:43 UTC  

From wiki:

2019-05-18 17:23:50 UTC  

After Igor's death in 945, Olga ruled Kievan Rus as regent on behalf of their son Svyatoslav.[10] Little is known about Olga’s tenure as ruler of Kiev, but the Primary Chronicle does give an account of her ascension to the throne and her bloody revenge on the Drevlians for the murder of her husband as well as some insight into her role as civil leader of the Kievan people.