and it is relevant here

>unimportant cosmologically
>the only observable evidence of anything resembling life in the entire observable cosmos

Literally do people even listen to the bullshit they spew?

Unfortunately, people are no longer listening to what they say. They might hear it, but they aren't listening, if that makes sense.

They also can't afford to make any concessions. The best method of arguing is still, in my opinion and (albeit limited) experience is the Socratic method.

Who's up to what today?

Dying

Slowly but surely

The best way to die!

Wew wee

Just read all that Jewry above

Sick of pantheists

@Deleted User wtf is that?

People who think God is nature

LGBTIP++

Luciferians
Gnosticism
Bogomils
Tritheism
Iconoclasm
Pantheists

Like, people that look at his works rather then him like pagans

We should build this wholly original acronym.

Heresy is a spectrum.

No, I mean people who earnestly believe that God is only present in that which he created and the laws that he bound them to

Materialists essentially

Oh ok, huh that is weird I’ve never imagined him in that way

"Pantheism is the belief that reality is identical with divinity, or that all-things compose an all-encompassing, immanent god."

How can the creator be the created?

The creator says

+search I am that I am

What is this

I'm trying to find the verse where Moses asks God to characterise himself to the Israelites

And God says "I am that I am"

Meaning he's everything

So they take that way too literally?

Exodus 3:14

**Exodus 3:14 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<14> God said to Moses, "I am who I am." He said further, "Thus you shall say to the Israelites, 'I am has sent me to you.'" ```

Thanks

More like that's all they attribute him as, missing all the other aspects of the Father

That's the usual one used.

So God is everything and more?

He doesn't say that He is everything, they, pantheists, expand His comprehension from "I am Who exists" to "I am all that exists".

Exodus 3:14

**Exodus 3:14 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

```Dust


<14> God said to Moses: I AM WHO AM. He said: Thus shalt thou say to the children of Israel: HE WHO IS, hath sent me to you. ```

Cause now I’m confused, I thought that God is creator so how can the creator be what has been created?

@Mac tíre iarain that's the problem with pantheism