The best way to die!

Wew wee

Just read all that Jewry above

Sick of pantheists

@Deleted User wtf is that?

People who think God is nature

LGBTIP++

Luciferians
Gnosticism
Bogomils
Tritheism
Iconoclasm
Pantheists

Like, people that look at his works rather then him like pagans

We should build this wholly original acronym.

Heresy is a spectrum.

No, I mean people who earnestly believe that God is only present in that which he created and the laws that he bound them to

Materialists essentially

Oh ok, huh that is weird I’ve never imagined him in that way

"Pantheism is the belief that reality is identical with divinity, or that all-things compose an all-encompassing, immanent god."

How can the creator be the created?

The creator says

+search I am that I am

What is this

I'm trying to find the verse where Moses asks God to characterise himself to the Israelites

And God says "I am that I am"

Meaning he's everything

So they take that way too literally?

Exodus 3:14

**Exodus 3:14 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<14> God said to Moses, "I am who I am." He said further, "Thus you shall say to the Israelites, 'I am has sent me to you.'" ```

Thanks

More like that's all they attribute him as, missing all the other aspects of the Father

That's the usual one used.

So God is everything and more?

He doesn't say that He is everything, they, pantheists, expand His comprehension from "I am Who exists" to "I am all that exists".

Exodus 3:14

**Exodus 3:14 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

```Dust


<14> God said to Moses: I AM WHO AM. He said: Thus shalt thou say to the children of Israel: HE WHO IS, hath sent me to you. ```

Cause now I’m confused, I thought that God is creator so how can the creator be what has been created?

@Mac tíre iarain that's the problem with pantheism

The creator doesn't come into the equation

It's a cyclical heresy

So wait

Is he both the creator and the created?

The I Am is lost on most people today through the inclusion of the second "I". The traditionally wording is "I Am Who AM" where "Am" is a verb (state of being). The modern wording of "I Am Who I Am" is a grammatical error as it changes the sentence meaning from "I Am Being" to "I Am My Being". It is heretical for me to say of myself that I am who am, but it is safe for me to say, as Popeye would, "I am who I am" as that merely says "My personage is me".

***Edit, corrected "Second "Who"" to "Second "I""

So wait, is he both the created and the creator?

I suggest we move this discussion into Catholic Fun Friend Time.