Message from @Christus obnube Liberatoris
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And yeah sedes are *literally* protestant
no u
>Not going to Sarum Use
What is wrong with you, pleb?
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Conservative novus ordo is still novus ordo, and novus ordo isn't Catholic. You novus ordo niggers always call sedes protestant but you literally believe that infiltrators with the intent of destroying the Church from within, and their successors, are somehow magically Catholic. You're closer to protards than sedes are, believing obvious lies. You're just as bad as mormons in that regard.
Pretty much
Heresy has consequences
Imagine believing that Sedvacantism isn't just Donatism with a fancy name.
@Christus obnube Liberatoris It's good to see that at least someone here is capable of using their sense of reason.
In <#557359532838354944> yesterday we were discussing the ramifications of the order of malta forcing the new rite on their members
It was not a happy discussion
Weird that the doctors of the church taught donatism
Donatism only applies to low ranking clergy, like priests and bishops. Divine law prohibits a heretic from becoming, or staying, a pope.
@Deleted User I see you’re making friends
I don’t think you know what Donatism is, did they still hold jurisdiction in the church during their schism?
@Deleted User The head of the order can flex however he likes.
But he can't stop people giving the mass.
@Mac tíre iarain Not really, I know Elias from another server.
Forgive me because this might be obvious, but why does Novus Ordo even exist? I'm reading the catechism now and it continually speaks of tradition. The new rite isn't that which was always done, no?
St Augustine explicitly rejects that idea and it wasn’t until the donatists were reconciled and repented of their heresy that their jurisdiction was restored
@Deleted User Bugini trying to bring Lutherans and Jews into the fold.
So it has no actual theological foundation?
Not a great one, no.
But this Protestant mass doesn’t contain errors or anything harmful <:ohyou2:569616856105877505>
What the heck
Take into account there are quotes of members of the concillium removing prayers from the orders of mass because they "sounded bad".
@Deleted User Yes, the new rite only became a thing in the 60s. That's why they call it the new rite. As for why the Novus Ordo exists:
The promulgation of a new rite was actually condemned and the wrath of Peter and Paul are upon those who formulated the new mass according to St Pius V
May they all be saints soon.
@Christus obnube Liberatoris Absolutely, and not just for the mass but also for ordinations and consecrations., meaning that priests and bishops ordained/consecrated in the new rite are not valid and thus are laymen.
How is a Christian supposed to deal with aggressive people, or people who are constantly hostile?
If you would rather throw out what was taught by Sts Peter and Paul to the first Christians in the catacombs for the ecumenical pipedreams of hippies in the 60s you are honestly a moron
"Live by the sword, die by the sword" <:smugortho:549522259086278656>
All of the papal claimants after pope Pius XII have quite obviously been the vicar of the Devil, not Christ.
Its pretty obvious if you look at it objectively and apply dogmatic ecclesiology to the current situation
hey, can I get some sauces on that south african genocide
nah lol
We don’t like Novus ordo, we just like to not spit to ourselves by claiming the seat is empty
Spotted at the local METHODIST church