Message from @Christus obnube Liberatoris

Discord ID: 588493447611154432


2019-06-12 22:01:26 UTC  

"Not another fecking Sede"? Are there others here as well?

2019-06-12 22:07:50 UTC  

They don't last very long here

2019-06-12 22:08:02 UTC  

And I have other social circles in which there are Sedes

2019-06-12 22:08:11 UTC  

Never met one that hasn't had a personality disorder.

2019-06-12 22:16:54 UTC  

Ok, so this isn't really a trad Christian server at all, just a conservative novus ordo, protard, and orthofag server.
Nice ad hom, faggot.

2019-06-12 22:17:14 UTC  

shh

2019-06-12 22:17:20 UTC  

sedes are just orthodox in denial \

2019-06-12 22:17:28 UTC  

Lmao, no most Catholics here go to the tridentine mass when possible

2019-06-12 22:17:44 UTC  

And yeah sedes are *literally* protestant

2019-06-12 22:18:09 UTC  

no u

2019-06-12 22:18:18 UTC  

>Not going to Sarum Use

2019-06-12 22:18:23 UTC  

What is wrong with you, pleb?

2019-06-12 22:18:26 UTC  

<:thinksmirk:564102152239185920>

2019-06-12 22:20:31 UTC  

Conservative novus ordo is still novus ordo, and novus ordo isn't Catholic. You novus ordo niggers always call sedes protestant but you literally believe that infiltrators with the intent of destroying the Church from within, and their successors, are somehow magically Catholic. You're closer to protards than sedes are, believing obvious lies. You're just as bad as mormons in that regard.

2019-06-12 22:20:50 UTC  

Pretty much

2019-06-12 22:21:07 UTC  

Heresy has consequences

2019-06-12 22:22:06 UTC  

Imagine believing that Sedvacantism isn't just Donatism with a fancy name.

2019-06-12 22:22:11 UTC  

@Christus obnube Liberatoris It's good to see that at least someone here is capable of using their sense of reason.

2019-06-12 22:22:40 UTC  

In <#557359532838354944> yesterday we were discussing the ramifications of the order of malta forcing the new rite on their members

2019-06-12 22:22:45 UTC  

It was not a happy discussion

2019-06-12 22:22:51 UTC  

Weird that the doctors of the church taught donatism

2019-06-12 22:23:11 UTC  

Donatism only applies to low ranking clergy, like priests and bishops. Divine law prohibits a heretic from becoming, or staying, a pope.

2019-06-12 22:23:17 UTC  

@Deleted User I see you’re making friends

2019-06-12 22:23:21 UTC  

I don’t think you know what Donatism is, did they still hold jurisdiction in the church during their schism?

2019-06-12 22:23:25 UTC  

@Deleted User The head of the order can flex however he likes.

2019-06-12 22:23:34 UTC  

But he can't stop people giving the mass.

2019-06-12 22:23:35 UTC  

@Mac tíre iarain Not really, I know Elias from another server.

2019-06-12 22:23:59 UTC  

Forgive me because this might be obvious, but why does Novus Ordo even exist? I'm reading the catechism now and it continually speaks of tradition. The new rite isn't that which was always done, no?

2019-06-12 22:24:00 UTC  

St Augustine explicitly rejects that idea and it wasn’t until the donatists were reconciled and repented of their heresy that their jurisdiction was restored

2019-06-12 22:24:19 UTC  

@Deleted User Bugini trying to bring Lutherans and Jews into the fold.

2019-06-12 22:24:46 UTC  

So it has no actual theological foundation?

2019-06-12 22:24:52 UTC  

Not a great one, no.

2019-06-12 22:24:56 UTC  

But this Protestant mass doesn’t contain errors or anything harmful <:ohyou2:569616856105877505>

2019-06-12 22:25:01 UTC  

What the heck

2019-06-12 22:25:24 UTC  

Take into account there are quotes of members of the concillium removing prayers from the orders of mass because they "sounded bad".

2019-06-12 22:25:28 UTC  

@Deleted User Yes, the new rite only became a thing in the 60s. That's why they call it the new rite. As for why the Novus Ordo exists:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/588494105869418512/infiltration_of_the_catholic_church.jpg

2019-06-12 22:25:40 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/588494153982148608/School_Of_Darkness.pdf

2019-06-12 22:25:44 UTC  

The promulgation of a new rite was actually condemned and the wrath of Peter and Paul are upon those who formulated the new mass according to St Pius V

2019-06-12 22:26:08 UTC  

May they all be saints soon.

2019-06-12 22:26:23 UTC  

@Christus obnube Liberatoris Absolutely, and not just for the mass but also for ordinations and consecrations., meaning that priests and bishops ordained/consecrated in the new rite are not valid and thus are laymen.

2019-06-12 22:26:31 UTC  

How is a Christian supposed to deal with aggressive people, or people who are constantly hostile?