Message from @MawLr

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2019-08-31 21:24:50 UTC  

<:bruh:569616839340982272>

2019-08-31 21:24:52 UTC  

The OT literally debunks this

2019-08-31 21:24:54 UTC  

Again

2019-08-31 21:25:11 UTC  

Jews were chosen by God. They turned his back and naturally did almost no good

2019-08-31 21:25:19 UTC  

Conversely

2019-08-31 21:25:53 UTC  

We have tons of people who have arrived at God at an arbitrary point in their life through their own accord

2019-08-31 21:26:01 UTC  

Some later defected

2019-08-31 21:26:10 UTC  

some then came back. or never came back

2019-08-31 21:26:10 UTC  

Hey look that's me.

2019-08-31 21:26:24 UTC  

and some repeatedly turn away and then come back

2019-08-31 21:27:30 UTC  

I don’t claim I’m good enough, but I actively try to live a life in accordance and not just say Jesus is the way

2019-08-31 21:28:07 UTC  

Also

2019-08-31 21:28:19 UTC  

Calvinism is only a few centuries old

2019-08-31 21:29:02 UTC  

Divine intervvention enables salvatgion

2019-08-31 21:29:11 UTC  

If Calvinism was the way I'm pretty sure we'd have a huge Calvinist church worldwide

2019-08-31 21:29:18 UTC  

funny how its mainly localized to the Americas

2019-08-31 21:29:21 UTC  

You still have free will that will determine whether you accept the grace or reject it

2019-08-31 21:29:51 UTC  

This is constantly reminded in Scripture, we don't have a path that is set in stone. Salvation is open, but people can go against it

2019-08-31 21:32:41 UTC  

So salvation is by grace, but grace can be rejected. People can or not collaborate

2019-08-31 21:33:08 UTC  

The old saying goes "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink"

2019-08-31 21:33:10 UTC  

Ad Augusta per Angusta

2019-08-31 21:33:20 UTC  

And god has a huge lake

2019-08-31 21:35:24 UTC  

you will never find salvation as a consequence of your own free will, this is because we are inherently broken. only by God's intervention can we be guided towards salvation.

2019-08-31 21:35:55 UTC  

You said that already.

2019-08-31 21:35:58 UTC  

Salvation is by grace, but you have to make the right choices. You can reject God's guidance

2019-08-31 21:35:59 UTC  

<:bruh:569616839340982272>

2019-08-31 21:36:05 UTC  

Damn guess we should just sin then, since we won't get saved

2019-08-31 21:36:18 UTC  

If only I can get off my butt and get God's will

2019-08-31 21:36:20 UTC  

shame I cant tho

2019-08-31 21:36:42 UTC  

Ugh I don't feel like going to church guise.

2019-08-31 21:36:45 UTC  

<:clownpepe:550674767351644180>

2019-08-31 21:36:51 UTC  

Good thing I'm graced lmao.

2019-08-31 21:36:57 UTC  

its not that you SHOULD sin, its that you couldnt NOT sin even if you tried

2019-08-31 21:37:10 UTC  

Imagine thinking this.

2019-08-31 21:37:14 UTC  

We both know that is absurd

2019-08-31 21:37:36 UTC  

I mean, what does "even if you tried" mean there?

2019-08-31 21:37:44 UTC  

That there is a temptation to sin?

2019-08-31 21:37:56 UTC  

Tfw your pious life is only pious if God bugged you on birth.

2019-08-31 21:38:28 UTC  

Less memery

2019-08-31 21:38:41 UTC  

@ninjacats no one is denying that people sin

2019-08-31 21:38:53 UTC  

but you can always choose to sin LESS