Message from @MawLr
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The OT literally debunks this
Again
Jews were chosen by God. They turned his back and naturally did almost no good
Conversely
We have tons of people who have arrived at God at an arbitrary point in their life through their own accord
Some later defected
some then came back. or never came back
Hey look that's me.
and some repeatedly turn away and then come back
I don’t claim I’m good enough, but I actively try to live a life in accordance and not just say Jesus is the way
Also
Calvinism is only a few centuries old
Divine intervvention enables salvatgion
If Calvinism was the way I'm pretty sure we'd have a huge Calvinist church worldwide
funny how its mainly localized to the Americas
You still have free will that will determine whether you accept the grace or reject it
This is constantly reminded in Scripture, we don't have a path that is set in stone. Salvation is open, but people can go against it
So salvation is by grace, but grace can be rejected. People can or not collaborate
The old saying goes "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink"
And god has a huge lake
you will never find salvation as a consequence of your own free will, this is because we are inherently broken. only by God's intervention can we be guided towards salvation.
You said that already.
Salvation is by grace, but you have to make the right choices. You can reject God's guidance
<:bruh:569616839340982272>
Damn guess we should just sin then, since we won't get saved
If only I can get off my butt and get God's will
shame I cant tho
Ugh I don't feel like going to church guise.
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Good thing I'm graced lmao.
its not that you SHOULD sin, its that you couldnt NOT sin even if you tried
Imagine thinking this.
We both know that is absurd
I mean, what does "even if you tried" mean there?
That there is a temptation to sin?
Tfw your pious life is only pious if God bugged you on birth.
Less memery
@ninjacats no one is denying that people sin
but you can always choose to sin LESS