Also

Calvinism is only a few centuries old

Divine intervvention enables salvatgion

If Calvinism was the way I'm pretty sure we'd have a huge Calvinist church worldwide

funny how its mainly localized to the Americas

You still have free will that will determine whether you accept the grace or reject it

This is constantly reminded in Scripture, we don't have a path that is set in stone. Salvation is open, but people can go against it

So salvation is by grace, but grace can be rejected. People can or not collaborate

The old saying goes "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink"

Ad Augusta per Angusta

And god has a huge lake

you will never find salvation as a consequence of your own free will, this is because we are inherently broken. only by God's intervention can we be guided towards salvation.

You said that already.

Salvation is by grace, but you have to make the right choices. You can reject God's guidance

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Damn guess we should just sin then, since we won't get saved

If only I can get off my butt and get God's will

shame I cant tho

Ugh I don't feel like going to church guise.

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Good thing I'm graced lmao.

its not that you SHOULD sin, its that you couldnt NOT sin even if you tried

Imagine thinking this.

We both know that is absurd

I mean, what does "even if you tried" mean there?

That there is a temptation to sin?

Tfw your pious life is only pious if God bugged you on birth.

Less memery

@ninjacats no one is denying that people sin

but you can always choose to sin LESS

you dont have a choice. you were born chained to sin. you cant see past sin. you dont have the capability

Any good deed or good inclination is not done by your own self, whenever you don’t commit evil it’s thanks to God

But choose negligence and God cannot act against your free will

tfw Im not born with the God gene

You are mixing concepts

People can choose not to collaborate with God's grace, and reject Christ thus damning themselves

example: The jews

This has nothing to do with "the jews"

This is about actual people

Not groups that are related to some events

im saying that jews (as depicted in the OT) debunks this guy's whole calvinist arguement