@Wrath "what makes your beliefs more beliveable than mine?"

This is what the public education system creates.

I seen many people see vc2 as evil would it be okay to destroy ot?

No it's perfectly valid, it's just gravely misinterpreted more often than not

People who see V2 as evil in of itself completely misunderstand not only V2, but how councils work and how the Church works in general

Vatican 2 was made for a time when priests understood the world differently

There’s been a large cultural change

Sadly, at least in America, I find that it's less V2 that has lead to the mass Apostasy we're seeing but more very poor Catholic schools, bad priests, and grave mishandling of funds

I like talking to converts because they usually have a very fresh take on the Catholic faith, but I also find that they sometimes don't realize how bad things really are

I'm a revert and it's crazy looking back how poorly I was taught in Catholic school and how easy they made it to Apostatize

Not only that but I distinctly recall all the teachers going on various trips to places like Ireland and Australia meanwhile the school closed by the time I reached 5th grade

And then the next Catholic school I went to closed after I finished 6th grade

Then it was off to public school and mass was hardly even on my parents' minds

And no one, including me, cared even a little

Just to show you how poorly I was educated in the faith, here are some things I never knew until I reverted back to the faith:
1. The Eucharist is the body and blood of Christ (don't even remember this being said once)
2. What a mortal sin was (one teacher even said that only grave things like murder that you could go to jail for were the only mortal sins)
3. What Holy Days of Obligation were
4. The importance of Confession (the severe lack of emphasis basically implied that it was optional)
5. What the differences between Catholicism and Protestantism were (thought they were almost exactly the same)

I actually get angry thinking about this, I don't understand how people could care so little

V2 is the biggest misinterpretation in church history though

For sure, sorry for the blackpills

Thankfully I was quite educated in the faith

Nothing formal though

what's your opinion on the Novus Ordo? @kgoodsir99

I don't like it

It has the capacity to be reverent but it almost never is

Bothers me when people waste too much energy detracting it though

how come?

Because it's not inherently bad and most of the people that do it, in my experience, will do it excessively and at the expense of newcomers to the faith

I see, what about Annibale Bugnini, the architect of the Novos Ordo, was he really a mason?

there's also the claim of six ministers that were protestants and helped design the New Mass

Idk about any of that

@Wrath Ask him how does change occur within the universe

@ninjacats is this you?

https://youtu.be/leK2WkAHLYk

Daniel 2:42

**Daniel 2:42 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<42> As the toes of the feet were part iron and part clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle. ```

Daniel 2:43

**Daniel 2:43 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<43> As you saw the iron mixed with clay, so will they mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay. ```

Race mixing: Cancelled

my pastor suggested i stop participating in online communities. especially those of a political nature.

Why

Probably afraid of you turning Right Wing.

Jesus was a Hippie and a Socialist, don't you know.