Message from @liquidnight
Discord ID: 630396879913353237
who determines what I do and don't have?
your statements are just full of cleverly worded statements which are there to manipulate the opposing party
like for example, "biomass entities"
> 4:36] Fuckers: What is the difference between a capitalist ruling class and a government ruling class
No significant difference. Only decorative differences.
> 14:40] Thotsky: like for example, "biomass entities"
That was only a descriptive terms. This is how government psychopaths see the cattle.
14:37] Thotsky: a system where people voluntarily agreed to violate each others' natural laws.
If they agree, we name it *contract*. Then it is not a violation.
However under current rulership (and no contract), it is a violation.
we are not talking about any government here so any reference to that term is plainly unnecessary
okay then it's a contract then. But we have violated each others natural laws. What will you do about it.
I don't really see a need for natural law, because most of the time communities when left alone make their own laws whereby the community members agree to abide by them
@Leiro レイロ I just told you: If they agree, we it is a contract, not a violation.
Whats your problem understanding that ?
okay then we shall agree it's not a violation
so given that most of human society operated on the basis of man made laws (before the existance of a state), it begs the question, why have natural law?
because we have already established that most communities can operate peacefully without it
Natural Law is inherent in Nature.
https://scuppernongspringsnaturetrail.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/042.jpg
There's no question of *to have* or not *to have*.
Learn it, follow it, and you will be good.
Ignore it or transgress it, and you will suffer.
simple as that 🙂
no no look, stop spamming me these screenshots I'm aware of what it is
im just asking why it is necessary
> 15:29] Thotsky: because we have already established that most communities can operate peacefully without it
The problem is in your split-tongue with the word "peace" !!
@Leiro レイロ ok, IF you strive for ORDER, then you follow Natural Law.
IF you strive for disorder / chaos, then you transgress Natural Law.
--> Ok, humans who seek their advancement follow it.
Satanists who want destruction, despise it.
That's just a false dichotomy my friend
I strive for order, but I don't like natural law
your just asserting shit at this point
> 15:31] Thotsky: I strive for order, but I don't like natural law
Then you are in contradiction yourself 🙂
your just presenting a false dichotomy
if I don't follow natural law I'm for chaos because natural law strives for order
what a circular argument
actually I think your the one contradicting yourself, if communities have been peaceful without natural law, that means natural law is not a necessary prerequisite
and therefore, plain unnecessary
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
In order to strive for Order, you need to take care of at least 2 domains: the material domain and the spiritual domain. agree ?
well you have to define what is order
creating order: going from lesser capacity to higher capacity, from unhealthy to healthy, from lower complexity to higher complexity
GG @liquidnight, you just advanced to level 3!
capacity of what?
and what's healthy? who determines what is healthy or not?
and why does lower complexity automatically entail order not being present?
@liquidnight why do you support a ruling class?
> 15:40] Fuckers: why do you support a ruling class?
@Fuckers there is no "class" this is commie-speak.
Your premise is wrong.
There absolutely is class
That is cappy speak
Those who have more power
And those who have less
Literally 99% of people disagree with your statement that class doesn't exist
@Fuckers you admire the law of the jungle, I do not. this is the difference.