Message from @Fuckers
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I strive for order, but I don't like natural law
your just asserting shit at this point
> 15:31] Thotsky: I strive for order, but I don't like natural law
Then you are in contradiction yourself 🙂
your just presenting a false dichotomy
if I don't follow natural law I'm for chaos because natural law strives for order
what a circular argument
actually I think your the one contradicting yourself, if communities have been peaceful without natural law, that means natural law is not a necessary prerequisite
and therefore, plain unnecessary
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
In order to strive for Order, you need to take care of at least 2 domains: the material domain and the spiritual domain. agree ?
well you have to define what is order
creating order: going from lesser capacity to higher capacity, from unhealthy to healthy, from lower complexity to higher complexity
GG @liquidnight, you just advanced to level 3!
capacity of what?
and what's healthy? who determines what is healthy or not?
and why does lower complexity automatically entail order not being present?
@liquidnight why do you support a ruling class?
> 15:40] Fuckers: why do you support a ruling class?
@Fuckers there is no "class" this is commie-speak.
Your premise is wrong.
There absolutely is class
That is cappy speak
Those who have more power
Literally 99% of people disagree with your statement that class doesn't exist
@Fuckers you admire the law of the jungle, I do not. this is the difference.
> 15:38] Thotsky: capacity of what?
capacity of doing things.
> and what's healthy? who determines what is healthy or not?
your feeling ?
If a foot is missing, you're not healthy, ok ?
Why does lower capacity automatically entail society being at a lesser stage of order?
I don't see order having anything to do with me missing a foot
this conversation is getting retarded
> 15:38] Thotsky: and why does lower complexity automatically entail order not being present?
I did not say that !
I told you about the meaning of **to create order**
so order is not present when we are at a lower stage of complexity?
How do I admire law of the jungle?
I support the exact opposite
@Leiro レイロ you seem to not understand the principle of
Order akin to Syntropy
Disorder akin to Entropy
> 15:47] Fuckers: How do I admire law of the jungle?
> [15:47] Fuckers: I support the exact opposite
No, you admire "class" thinking, see below. If you use *power* instead of *right*, this is the law of the jungle.
> 15:43] Fuckers: There absolutely is class
> 15:43] Fuckers: Those who have more power
@Fuckers the guy hasnt proven why not adhering to natural law makes us all primitvists
I use right instead of power
Capitalism is the law of the jungle
Lol
Letting innocents starve is right?
Cardcore capitalists have this sureal autistic moral bent no normal human comprehends not even liberals
> [15:50] Fuckers: Capitalism is the law of the jungle
not **is** but *uses*. Communism too !
How so?