Women should be getting married and finishing their babymaking before 25

While it is true that we have created a unhealthy balance for women (by saying they can have it all).
"Women should" Do whatever they want to do, and hopefully more will start to make better choices in life.

@[DGI]tech I would disagree about the polygamy statement.

Depending on the societal demographics and culture, polygamy is a useful way of repopulation.

For instance, after a major war, and in a patriarchal society. When you have a vast overabundance of women to men and society doesn't allow women the same rights as men, polygamy is a valuable means for taking care of widows and fatherless children.

Even if you aren't in a patriarchal society, if you have two women to every man, is it better that half the female population develops blondes disease?

No one feels two spits of pity when someone says, "Men should protect women"

You are talking to no one then...

So, as far as I'm concerned, saying "women should" and implying a responsibility to civilization is just fine.

I never tell "Men they should protect women", that would be foolish.

You can depersonalize, since that wasn't an accusation.

I'm more then happy to start giving women more responsibility, but this doesn't mean we control peoples actions.

@Jeremy-Retard I wasn't taking it personal, just pointing out that it wasn't always true.

Female incels are only a danger to themselves so nobody worries about them

@DJ_Anuz gets it...
I know a couple. He is very much straight. She is bi. They have a live in girlfriend who discovered she's not as lesbian as they thought.
Between them now I think they have 8 kids, and all year long, one or the other or both is pregnant. I don't even visit anymore, too many kids running around.

Not always being true says nothing about the prevalence by which it is true.

It does when you say "no one".

Yes, and technically you did not address what I said.

My contention has only been on your choice of believing what people should do with their lives, which isn't up to anyone but the people themselves.

You're individualizing a generalized statement of how life paths should go.

Saying "women should" is not a direct instruction to individuals.

@Mandatory Carry nothing against your friends, but that sounds like the height of degeneracy! BTW what exactly are they repopulating?

How general do you want it to be? 90% 80-20 50/50? At which point are you talking about what women should do, or what some women should do.

You can spin yourself up as much as you want on that question, it doesn't impact what I said at all.

You said what women should do... I'm asking how many.

And I'm under no obligation to de-generalize my statement.

Neat, so i guess we aren't talking about any people at all then.

Yes, philosophical discussions of how people in general might best live their life are impossible unless you specify an individual.

funny

Its a terrible standard for a philosophy then, as most people won't follow it.

Well, maybe not terrible, but not ideal.

@scaevola honestly, if they are consistent and don't sleep around with others outside of that relationship. I don't see it as all that degenerate.

Though right now we're not in a cultural situation where polygamy enmass is justified, and will result in more incels.

Anyone who follows a philosophy doesn't understand the purpose of philosophy

*"Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself; And by the measure ye judge, so shalt ye **BE***" ¿or is it **be**? *"judged."*
I know more about the history here that *isn't mine to tell,* but the short-short version is, I choose to encourage them to be them.
And a great irony, ¿are you sitting down?, is that he is the least conservative of the bunch... Very right-center, v. hard right/harder right. (The not-so-lesbian is one of those "scary right" types other than neo-nazi.)
@scaevola

That makes sense of why they are into a polygamous relationship then.

I agree with DJ that polygamy is an adaptive response to certain environmental factors. Often I think a response to a high violence rate with the women rapidly repopulating with the stock of 'survivor' men.

@Mandatory Carry I dont think this is the right place to argue theology so if you want we can talk in private messages about it, but that must be the most misused bible quote ever. It doesnt mean that you shouldn't challenge sinful behavior. And good for them on being right wing, I still believe the children would benefit more in a traditional two parent household. Maybe they are doing a good job at parenting, but just because something is good doesnt mean it cant be improved.

those chineses are pretty smart maybe they are on to something

I don't think generally polygamy is a good thing. But i'm also building up a big waifu harem.....