florida:
https://nypost.com/2019/06/03/ex-miami-school-board-member-81-shoots-at-police-in-chase/
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-pinellas/pinellas-county-woman-arrested-for-dui-crash-that-killed-motorcyclist

@DJ_Anuz Was that a joke or do you really think exile would be better?

It's not the policies of the society that make a society better or worse, its the people.

I could point to early republican rome as an example of a society that used exile in its best days, but we ain't them, so it doesn't matter.

@Shadows
No problem.
Good luck... 😒

I don't remember DJ_anuz orignal point, but I do think exile should exist in the world of public policy. Might be useful in seeking dictators to peacefully step down.

I don't see how exile would be a good thing for the crimes he talked about. Like... that wouldn't stop them from doing those things again somewhere else.

Again. Devil’s island. They can rape and murder each other all they want

I don't like that idea either.

I'm disappointed Shadows, I was expecting an argument!

its the same as prison without paroll

I thought that's what my country was

or Liberia...

you can leave liberia

@RoadtoDawn I'm more then happy to argue, was waiting for someone to put something up to do so with.

You can at any time :)

I think the idea is that, people can do what they want in other countries but they will not do them here. I could be wrong on that though

That island could be considered No Man's Land 🤔

Japan used to do it with the Ryukyu islands

I say pick an island in the north of Canada isolate it

A lot of countries used to do it. It’s way more convenient to ship criminals off and forget about them than it is to feed them for their whole lives

@RoadtoDawn Can we call it No Man Sky, i'm sure it would be just as crappy (don't know if the game is good now or not lol).

I'm sure the king of the island gets to decide its name

But yeah, that's the idea. It's crappy. Wouldn't recommend a visit xP

@Shadows yes it was a joke.

My Colosseum bloodsports for felons is not a joke though. We should definitely do that.

We should get Kim Kardashian to focus her prison reform efforts on making Devil’s Island a thing

The winner can earn their freedom

@RoadtoDawn One of my many issues with the idea of an Island full of exiles, is you get (the person or party aggrieved) nor receive justice (the offender). Which would start creating even more problems then its looking to solve.

Say,
What this person or person's murdered your family?
Well we sent him to an island where he can keep doing those kinds of things. Hope that makes you feel better.

prisoner's island is a theory that's used in game match making quite a bit. It doesn't work for reformation (at all - it's actually been shown to make peoples' behavior worse), but it's certainly effective at keeping the people you don't want ruining your game for everyone else out of their games

(DOTA 2 is a major example of a game that uses a prisoner's island style low priority queue for players that get reported a lot, and Valve has found that once someone ends up in there, it's REALLY hard for them to get back out)

so basically - if there's any goal of reformation at all, don't use it. Otherwise, I mean, it's effective at what it's intended to do

ethical, when talking about locking up criminals together in a real life context? eeeeeeeeeeh

It’s meant for the extreme

Like high profile criminals

Dictators and such

sure, I understand that. Then we get back to the question of ensuring that it only happens to those that are 100% without a doubt guilty of such a crime

>thinking murderers have caring family members
😂

also, there's still the question of if it's even ethical to do

I’m pretty sure we’ll know if a dictator is guilty or not.