that's why I see it as a selfish out

Yeah and that is pretty sound advice, none of it requires a graduate degree or to wait to settle down until after 30.

@Deleted User you don't need to be rich to have a good family life

Kids are not on the near horizon. I still have to get the "relationship" part down first, lol.

How old are you DGI?

23.

@xbigmoneygrip heresy

@uncephalized an associate's degree is really a good one considering it's two years and you could take and I'll class and something like automotive for welding and make a lot of money and not as much money spent on classes

^^^

I have my Associates in Computer Networking.

And recently received my CCNA R&S.

@[DGI]tech and how long did it take you to get

2-years. I went full-time even through summer.

OK you're all right. Just don't put off looking or you'll wake up 5 years from now with no partner and a lot less time to find one...

The certification didn't come until a year or so later. I slacked.

@uncephalized I think you're good at finding won't as long as you know you're not 45 and single

Yeah associates and trade certs are great.

I think my issue right now is that I don't put myself out there enough, and make small talk with other coworkers or whoever the fuck I find attractive.

dont get an associates in automotive, its a total waste

the college loan debt plays into this idea that you need to be rich first

@uncephalized I think people fail to see that because you know skills always pushed you need to go to a 4-year college to be successful.It's in the local college does a technical schools like $85 a credit our

@Big T why not

i was a mercedes benz tech and ASE master tech

I got FAFSA, and graduated scott free.

My coworker is like, 100k in debt for a 4-year.

And we work the same job.

get a job as an apprentince tech

😂

instead

@Big T how do you do that

Go learn plumbing or welding or electrician cert if you want a trade cert that will always be relevant and profitable...

millions of young people conned into debt with no chance of being financially independent who think they cant have kids otherwise

go to shops and see if theyre hiring

you become an apprentice under a master tech

This is true.

he trains you to be a tech and eventually you get your own stall

@Big T I put some guys I work with that eventually want to go work in a oil bay. they told me you need some type of certification just to work on a car.

The amount of debt is astonishing, and a large majority are investing in careers that aren't worthwhile in our current market.

Or the ROI is just dogshit.

I love engineering, but I look back and think, "I could have been a mechanic or electrician so much faster."

@xbigmoneygrip not sure what that means