There is an added layer of depth to this equation.

@uncephalized exactly

thinking the key to being a good parent is making sure you're rich first is mammon worship

Agreed, but I believe that many parents let lack of funding persuade them into making poor decisions, and this negatively paints their children as a result.

You should be financially stable, and emotionally mature.

Otherwise their stress will bleed.

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@[DGI]tech what are the Ben Shapiro says the best way to make it into the middle class is have a high school diploma a job and not have kids before you're married

Correct. I've seen plenty of his videos.

he didn't say dont be rich first

or be rich first

that's why I see it as a selfish out

Yeah and that is pretty sound advice, none of it requires a graduate degree or to wait to settle down until after 30.

@Deleted User you don't need to be rich to have a good family life

Kids are not on the near horizon. I still have to get the "relationship" part down first, lol.

How old are you DGI?

23.

@xbigmoneygrip heresy

@uncephalized an associate's degree is really a good one considering it's two years and you could take and I'll class and something like automotive for welding and make a lot of money and not as much money spent on classes

^^^

I have my Associates in Computer Networking.

And recently received my CCNA R&S.

@[DGI]tech and how long did it take you to get

2-years. I went full-time even through summer.

OK you're all right. Just don't put off looking or you'll wake up 5 years from now with no partner and a lot less time to find one...

The certification didn't come until a year or so later. I slacked.

@uncephalized I think you're good at finding won't as long as you know you're not 45 and single

Yeah associates and trade certs are great.

I think my issue right now is that I don't put myself out there enough, and make small talk with other coworkers or whoever the fuck I find attractive.

dont get an associates in automotive, its a total waste

the college loan debt plays into this idea that you need to be rich first

@uncephalized I think people fail to see that because you know skills always pushed you need to go to a 4-year college to be successful.It's in the local college does a technical schools like $85 a credit our

@Big T why not

i was a mercedes benz tech and ASE master tech

I got FAFSA, and graduated scott free.

My coworker is like, 100k in debt for a 4-year.

And we work the same job.

get a job as an apprentince tech

😂