Message from @A. Spader

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2019-09-25 06:01:32 UTC  

The wealth of a country doesn't necessarily relate to income mobility.

2019-09-25 06:01:34 UTC  

@Louis Carlos Fer they are using a pretty sophisticated measure which is percent of variance inherited across and within families

2019-09-25 06:01:40 UTC  

but hang on a sec

2019-09-25 06:05:40 UTC  

Say we have two countries, Egalitaria and Ancapistan. Both have their incomes divided into quartiles:

Egalitaria: Q1 $0 - $20,000, Q2 $20,001 - $55,000, Q3 $55,001 - $120,000, Q4 $120,001+
Ancapistan: Q1 $0 - $30,000, Q2 $30,001 - $100,000, Q3 $100,001 - $400,000, Q4 $400,000+

In Egalitaria a person could go from 'low income' to 'medium income' by jumping from $12k to $24k, whereas in Ancapistan, both of those incomes are still in Q1, because the spread of incomes is much larger, and so the categories are larger as well--but in either country, their income and material standard of living would still have doubled.

2019-09-25 06:07:24 UTC  

Presumably being in Ancapistan makes gaining $12k in income easier than it would be in Egalitaria.

2019-09-25 06:07:38 UTC  

easier isn't the right word.

2019-09-25 06:07:42 UTC  

I should say "more likely"

2019-09-25 06:07:58 UTC  

Otherwise Ancapistan wouldn't have a greater wealth spread.

2019-09-25 06:09:40 UTC  

Perhaps. That would have to be compiled from data on historical economic mobility. 😉

2019-09-25 06:09:50 UTC  

hard to come by in fictional countries

2019-09-25 06:10:27 UTC  

The whole point is to compare mobility.

2019-09-25 06:11:20 UTC  

It is possible that a nation with a higher wealth spread has lower absolute mobility but I think those charts generally chart relative mobility.

2019-09-25 06:14:21 UTC  

Certainly possible in a more rigid class-based society.

2019-09-25 06:14:41 UTC  

I'm not throwing shade on that study btw, so far it seems to be pretty rigorous.

2019-09-25 06:40:18 UTC  

@Fondboy I'm in AEST. It's currently 1640 here

2019-09-25 11:57:51 UTC  

So pick a time after 2200 my time, preferably on the weekend but whenever. Let's have a chat

2019-09-25 11:58:02 UTC  

I still don't see why that can't happen here

2019-09-25 12:02:15 UTC  

My money is now on fondboy having a discord-debate-ASMR fetish. Must be why he always asks for voice and records people

2019-09-25 12:06:06 UTC  

We're constantly blue-balling him with all this text debate

2019-09-25 13:13:14 UTC  

lol

2019-09-25 13:13:43 UTC  

it's a terrible format since every time he;s been in voice there are like 3 people trying to get a word in edgewise

2019-09-25 13:13:52 UTC  

we prolly all sound like idiots

2019-09-25 13:17:37 UTC  

maybe that is his purpose

2019-09-25 13:17:58 UTC  

I mean

2019-09-25 13:18:16 UTC  

I admire his bravery violating multiple state's laws

2019-09-25 13:18:55 UTC  

not really, not if he lives in a country/state, where there is only 1 party consent

2019-09-25 13:19:33 UTC  

yeah but a number of us live in 2 party consent states

2019-09-25 13:19:37 UTC  

such as myself

2019-09-25 13:19:52 UTC  

since he is recording in a location like that, those laws don't apply

2019-09-25 13:20:06 UTC  

I'm not sure that's how that works

2019-09-25 13:20:32 UTC  

plus we all know youtube doesn't use the law as their measuring stick anyway

2019-09-25 13:20:35 UTC  

So it's legal for him to record you, but you can't record him?

2019-09-25 13:20:40 UTC  

^

2019-09-25 13:21:16 UTC  

pretty much, from what i understand from the whole law issue, since where are you going to sue him?

2019-09-25 13:21:19 UTC  

in your state?

2019-09-25 13:21:23 UTC  

lol

2019-09-25 13:21:23 UTC  

or in his state?

2019-09-25 13:21:25 UTC  

no

2019-09-25 13:21:38 UTC  

suing him would be a profound waste of time

2019-09-25 13:21:48 UTC  

I'm pretty sure the only wiretapping law that applies is the one of the state where the one doing the recording is.

2019-09-25 13:22:14 UTC  

2 party consent states are fucking lame anyway.