Message from @CCRed95

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2019-11-14 00:17:21 UTC  

ah

2019-11-14 00:17:30 UTC  

now I understand why he said what he said

2019-11-14 00:17:46 UTC  

If you trying to be bored join

2019-11-14 00:17:52 UTC  

OK

2019-11-14 00:18:02 UTC  

changes nothing, but I can at least understand his perspective

2019-11-14 00:18:05 UTC  

@TheCompanyMan Try relaunching discord

2019-11-14 00:18:18 UTC  

That question is a whole can of worms way beyond the scope of the debate

2019-11-14 00:18:49 UTC  

ok will do

2019-11-14 00:19:10 UTC  

What was the question?

2019-11-14 00:19:24 UTC  

is it alright to ask how much experience does Pius have in arguments regarding Godship

2019-11-14 00:20:17 UTC  

Legendary

2019-11-14 00:21:04 UTC  

evidencial moralism doesn't exist

2019-11-14 00:21:36 UTC  

so fondboy's seeking on the subject is actually logically impossible to argue

2019-11-14 00:22:50 UTC  

First thing, never push God onto others...you can let them know but that’s it.

2019-11-14 00:22:59 UTC  

Citation needed, can't just say its true

2019-11-14 00:23:15 UTC  

you can't argue an objective evidence to morality without a divinity

2019-11-14 00:23:23 UTC  

which you can't argue towards in the first place

2019-11-14 00:23:41 UTC  

@myth For Pius, do you think that logic as an a priori has been definitively enough established?

2019-11-14 00:23:46 UTC  

Even if you had a divinity to argue from, you wouldn't be arguing for objective morality....

2019-11-14 00:23:48 UTC  

https://i.imgur.com/yiZeVQN.png o shit Gosar sending secret codes

2019-11-14 00:23:54 UTC  

It would just be subjective to the deity

2019-11-14 00:24:32 UTC  

There are objective morals though.

2019-11-14 00:24:41 UTC  

by divinity I'm not referring to a subject of the mind, by divinity I mean something that is beyond realms of reality and controls that reality

2019-11-14 00:25:05 UTC  

objective morals in 2019 good meme

2019-11-14 00:25:40 UTC  

How do you objectively measure those morals?

2019-11-14 00:25:52 UTC  

that's part of what I'm talking about

2019-11-14 00:26:01 UTC  

@lanceleader thats a whole realm of philsophical debate which does not yet have a definitive answer.

2019-11-14 00:26:13 UTC  

without an objective divinity to define an objective morality, you can't have either

2019-11-14 00:26:41 UTC  

I actually think I believe what @Fondboy position is on this. (Waits for the lightning bolt)

2019-11-14 00:27:25 UTC  

lol

2019-11-14 00:27:39 UTC  

what would that be Frasty

2019-11-14 00:27:41 UTC  

that's what I'm arguing about, which is the problem with asking the question about seeking a enpirical moral framework

2019-11-14 00:27:41 UTC  

Murder is an objective moral.

2019-11-14 00:27:43 UTC  

frosty

2019-11-14 00:27:56 UTC  

@lanceleader That doesn't really answer the question

2019-11-14 00:27:59 UTC  

@lanceleader true because it is by definition unlawful

2019-11-14 00:28:07 UTC  

I need some sort of proof, not words

2019-11-14 00:29:12 UTC  

No, I am not talking about laws. Not murdering is an objective moral.

2019-11-14 00:29:32 UTC  

If you say you want to debate someone on a topic it's up to that person to prove their position. Don't think that was achieved

2019-11-14 00:30:10 UTC  

All I got as an answer was it'sd true