Message from @Mongo Jongo
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I prefer to just get it over with with the terrible people
Let everyone see how stupid you are through your own actions
I'll put effort into the ones who are polite
I wish he could have gotten through his discussion with her more quickly. He gambles on being able to change people's mind with this segment.
Like even just breaking it down into 2 questions would have helped.
Unrelated though, did anyone see his beef with Potholer?
I do agree with that
He should have stomped her quickly
Either saying we're done or letting her lose it
Potholer?
Potholer is that guy who studies Climate change.
He had a debate scheduled with Crowder that Crowder backed out on.
It's the reason why for a long time I couldn't watch Steven on anything.
I can find the video
Oh. That issue. That’s my one beef with Steven. He does at least deny that climate change is an issue worth addressing.
Did he give a reason for backing out?
He can’t prove it wrong, so he probably backed out for that reason.
Not gay Jared just lied and said that Potholer backed out. But the E-mails with certificate says otherwise.
So no reason then
Pretty much.
The only way I'm able to let that go is by acknowledging that Crowder is first and foremost a comedian.
He's wrong on some serious issues, but if you go for the comedy it's not so bad.
Agreed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEylCS6-hBE
For those interested.
@Mongo Jongo What else do you disagree with him on?
He has some really bad understanding of colonial era native Americans.
Ryan Dawson did a breakdown on that one.
But then he's also pretty pro Israel on everything, but he moves the goalpost by saying, "Well, it's better than caliphate Islam." Yeah, sticking your dick in the blender is better than Caliphate Islam. Doesn't mean you get a free pass.
And "Change my mind" is a misnomer. He has no intention of changing his mind. The whole point is to bait people into arguing on camera. Which is fine. But "Change my mind" intimates that he'd be open to changing his mind. Which, let's be real, he's not.
I did the same thing back in 2012, and looking back, it's just not a measure of good faith.
But other than that, I agree with him on most things.
I think he's open to change his mind but he picks topics that he's so dead set on it's very hard
Yeah, that's a good point.
Ok. I’ve forgotten a lot of that part of American history. I need to touch up on it. I personally still don’t exactly know what to think about Israel and Palestine.
I think he could be convinced on climate change, but only when it’s pretty obvious that fossil fuels are on their way out. It’s still hard to imagine things running without some for of fossil fuel.
Well that and it's hard to realistically imagine everything running green
Considering the current cost of green energy
Well, wind and solar have gotten pretty cheap. It’s just hard to see not only the entire electric grid without fossil fuels but also transportation and industry.
In the next couple of years I plan on getting an electric vehicle.
It may have gotten cheap but not cheap enough to replace the entire backbone of every first world country
Remember not only do you neeed to be cheaper than fossil fuels, but so cheap they will tear down their old grid and use yours instead
Green Energy is still pretty far off, in that it needs to become cheap to manufacture to get poor countries on board with it. And it needs to produce way more power to meet our needs. Although other energy alternatives are in the works.