Message from @Mongo Jongo

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2018-10-03 15:57:36 UTC  

Oh man I still need to watch that shit

2018-10-03 16:28:33 UTC  

That Change My Mind segment was impossible to watch for me. I couldn't get through the first lady's arguments.
Totally unwatchable.

2018-10-03 16:29:31 UTC  

Did anyone fact check her issues with the empirical data regarding the rape statistics? She mentioned two acronyms that apparently are relevant.

2018-10-03 16:30:45 UTC  

And she says that rapes aren't recorded as rapes sometimes by police? I know that when I lived in South Africa that most crimes go undocumented in poor areas (which is most of the country).

2018-10-03 17:10:52 UTC  

@Mongo Jongo did you at least get to the part where the cop confronted the crazy lady?

2018-10-03 17:12:33 UTC  

I did. I had to piecemeal that video.
When she shakes his hand, "I was raped on your campus". This lady is a person who cries when she's frustrated. That's how my family is too. But mad props to Steven for treating her with respect even though she was calling him an idiot rape apologist.

2018-10-03 17:15:12 UTC  

I like how he drops the bomb on her 'I told you I didn't know a lot of things'

2018-10-03 17:17:23 UTC  

I was more disappointed in that part than anything. Debating that particular girl in the first place was a disaster. She clearly wasn't in a good emotional place to be debating anything. I don't think she could have debated the best way to store used grocery bags let alone rape culture.
I liked that he was throwing the FBI statistics on rape, and asking probing questions about how we perpetuate culture. He had basically the same conversation with the guy in the white shirt, but more productive.

2018-10-03 17:17:38 UTC  

Steven's at his best when he's not trying to "Gotcha!" people.

2018-10-03 17:17:59 UTC  

Meh

2018-10-03 17:18:11 UTC  

I prefer to just get it over with with the terrible people

2018-10-03 17:18:24 UTC  

Let everyone see how stupid you are through your own actions

2018-10-03 17:18:38 UTC  

I'll put effort into the ones who are polite

2018-10-03 17:19:14 UTC  

I wish he could have gotten through his discussion with her more quickly. He gambles on being able to change people's mind with this segment.

2018-10-03 17:19:29 UTC  

Like even just breaking it down into 2 questions would have helped.

2018-10-03 17:20:05 UTC  

Unrelated though, did anyone see his beef with Potholer?

2018-10-03 17:21:31 UTC  

I do agree with that

2018-10-03 17:21:39 UTC  

He should have stomped her quickly

2018-10-03 17:22:01 UTC  

Either saying we're done or letting her lose it

2018-10-03 17:22:06 UTC  

Potholer?

2018-10-03 17:23:32 UTC  

Potholer is that guy who studies Climate change.

2018-10-03 17:23:43 UTC  

He had a debate scheduled with Crowder that Crowder backed out on.

2018-10-03 17:24:01 UTC  

It's the reason why for a long time I couldn't watch Steven on anything.

2018-10-03 17:24:54 UTC  

I can find the video

2018-10-03 17:25:45 UTC  

Oh. That issue. That’s my one beef with Steven. He does at least deny that climate change is an issue worth addressing.

2018-10-03 17:25:49 UTC  

Did he give a reason for backing out?

2018-10-03 17:26:13 UTC  

He can’t prove it wrong, so he probably backed out for that reason.

2018-10-03 17:26:45 UTC  

Not gay Jared just lied and said that Potholer backed out. But the E-mails with certificate says otherwise.

2018-10-03 17:27:01 UTC  

So no reason then

2018-10-03 17:27:08 UTC  

Pretty much.

2018-10-03 17:27:25 UTC  

The only way I'm able to let that go is by acknowledging that Crowder is first and foremost a comedian.

2018-10-03 17:27:37 UTC  

He's wrong on some serious issues, but if you go for the comedy it's not so bad.

2018-10-03 17:27:44 UTC  

Agreed

2018-10-03 17:27:57 UTC  
2018-10-03 17:28:50 UTC  

@Mongo Jongo What else do you disagree with him on?

2018-10-03 17:29:20 UTC  

He has some really bad understanding of colonial era native Americans.

2018-10-03 17:29:27 UTC  

Ryan Dawson did a breakdown on that one.

2018-10-03 17:30:30 UTC  

But then he's also pretty pro Israel on everything, but he moves the goalpost by saying, "Well, it's better than caliphate Islam." Yeah, sticking your dick in the blender is better than Caliphate Islam. Doesn't mean you get a free pass.

2018-10-03 17:32:11 UTC  

And "Change my mind" is a misnomer. He has no intention of changing his mind. The whole point is to bait people into arguing on camera. Which is fine. But "Change my mind" intimates that he'd be open to changing his mind. Which, let's be real, he's not.
I did the same thing back in 2012, and looking back, it's just not a measure of good faith.

2018-10-03 17:32:21 UTC  

But other than that, I agree with him on most things.

2018-10-03 17:33:36 UTC  

I think he's open to change his mind but he picks topics that he's so dead set on it's very hard