idk how people believe that stuff

I disagree with calvinists as much as with catholics tbqh

The rest of Durbin’s stuff is good but when he talks on Calvinism it’s the worst

I don't know anything about calvinists. I think my brother goes to a calvinist church.

Oof

My mother is catholic

Ive watched Ally Stuckey who's a calvinist too

yeah but she doesn't go very deep into it theologically

at least that I've seen

The only thing I know about calvinism is predeterminism

or w/e you call it

I'm not sure what my father is in to. He an I are probably alike in that we don't really follow the... err.. flavors (?) of the different protestant or catholic quirks.

@A. Spader I'm quite a cultural catholic I guess if you wanna call it that

@Gunner Fox Calvinists believes that only a set of people are born with grace basically. You cant redeem yourself in order to get Gods grace

I've got hardly any connection to dogma

I don't understand how one gets from "I am the Way, the Truth and the Light" and "nobody gets to the Father except through me" to "God decided who was going to heaven an eternity before you were born"

Also @A. Spader I define a good man as a god fearing hard working man who’s willing to lead and provide for a family and ready to take care of things and only love the woman they are involved with

That doesn't seem logically congruent with the teachings of Christ.

@Gunner Fox exactly

Catholics are better off than most sects because they don't allow women to lead their churches. Now, if they could only do something about all the faggots...

bahahaha

Chet

NOT politically Correct homey

@Chet Nick Orthodox seem to have that figured out, priests can marry.

@Neon_Flipflop ahh okay. I hope I fill that definition someday

I think they

^

might even be required to marry

not a great Orthodox mind as Matt would say

the celibate priesthood is the main thing about Catholicism that makes 0 sense to me

I think the predestination/predeterminism thing is mostly taking certain verses out of context

Anyone here: how do you define a good woman?

I think perhaps they should rethink that to some degree. Possibly by creting more ways that married people can serve the church.

@Neon_Flipflop oriented towards having and taking care of children, is concerned with caregiving, loyal to family, does her best to maintain her appearance and supports her husband in providing for the family.

I grew up with a lot of "catholic in name only" most of which were hispanics
And they all fucked randos on the weekends and had kids outside of wedlock, some of them with multiple baby daddies

A good woman is a woman that loves God, abhors evil, listens to Christ, and understand that men and women are both worse than the other.

loyal, warm and supportive I guess

@Neon_Flipflop loyal to God above all else, loyal to her family next, ready to side with her husband without always seeing it the same way. Willing to extend grace where it is often undeserved, and of course loving and caring to her family.

Celibacy is both the ultimate demonstration of faith, and the ultimate delusion as to successfully choosing worthy candidates. God-fearing, high IQ males should be required to breed through a marriage, not denied it as a demonstration of fidelity.

wow the Christains are representing today

If you’re gonna rag on Calvinists you’ll need to rag on Catholics too