Message from @Malign

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2019-01-30 22:38:12 UTC  

That isn't the argument.

2019-01-30 22:40:08 UTC  

This is an ethical line in the sand... One which tons of people, of BOTH color ties, are afraid to look at.

One side wants capital punishment for criminals and the right to carry guns for lethal self defense... But declares all life inherently worth saving when it comes to abortions.

The other side wants to argue that there are 0 occassions in which a human life should be sacrificed, and inherently seekt o de-humanize fetuses/children in utero to do so...

I have constructed an ethical argument that shows there is a third position, an ethical super-position if you will, that people must resolve before they take a stance.

2019-01-30 22:40:21 UTC  

Either human life is inherently sacred, or it is not. Pick one.

2019-01-30 22:40:44 UTC  

NO WHERE in this ethical dilema/proof I offer do I state my personal stances.

2019-01-30 22:40:49 UTC  

I won't let you, or anyone else, do so.

2019-01-30 22:41:11 UTC  

you're mistaking dialogue for an attempt to put words in your mouth

2019-01-30 22:41:20 UTC  

Not at all.

2019-01-30 22:41:28 UTC  

abortion by firearms should be the only legal method

2019-01-30 22:41:34 UTC  

The first thing everyone tries to do when I present this to them is to infer my over-all position.

2019-01-30 22:42:01 UTC  

'You can go left, or you can go right, or you can go straight... Going backwards is useless.'

'OMG THIS GUY IS IN FAVOR OF GOING STRAIGHT! GET HIM!'

2019-01-30 22:42:13 UTC  

Metaphor.

2019-01-30 22:42:51 UTC  

just shoot the fetuses while they're in the womb

2019-01-30 22:43:43 UTC  

That would explain the gap in your teeth Raven. *snaps in a Z*

2019-01-30 22:43:47 UTC  

2019-01-30 22:43:49 UTC  

god damn

2019-01-30 22:44:16 UTC  

brb, gotta go kill myself real quick

2019-01-30 22:44:29 UTC  

Nooooooooo!

2019-01-30 22:44:31 UTC  

All is sacred!

2019-01-30 22:44:44 UTC  

there aren't enough chairs in my comp sci class, so I'm sitting on the floor in the back of the room right now

2019-01-30 22:45:20 UTC  

perfect place for suicide

2019-01-30 22:46:24 UTC  

"Either human life is inherently sacred, or it is not." false dichotomy. you can take the first position without any belief in life being sacred. there are very few pro-lifers who would deny a young woman an abortion for a rape baby

2019-01-30 22:47:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428940051896860672/540301944653348884/50973670_10219228372479119_8078857127570964480_n.png

2019-01-30 22:47:08 UTC  

Not a reply to you.

2019-01-30 22:47:09 UTC  

I mean...

2019-01-30 22:47:25 UTC  

why does the rape baby have to die? it ain't its fault

2019-01-30 22:47:31 UTC  

So you can believe that human life is sacred, but you can also believ eit is not?

2019-01-30 22:47:44 UTC  

Sacred is sacred.

2019-01-30 22:47:47 UTC  

INherent is inherent.

2019-01-30 22:47:52 UTC  

"you're assuming my position"

2019-01-30 22:47:54 UTC  

ffs I hate it when people weasel.

2019-01-30 22:48:06 UTC  

no, he was asking a question.

2019-01-30 22:48:14 UTC  

pardon... So 'someone' can believe that a human life is sacred, but 'someone' can also believe it is not sacred?

2019-01-30 22:48:16 UTC  
2019-01-30 22:48:31 UTC  

snow infamously slows down the great parcel migration

2019-01-30 22:48:51 UTC  

I think you shoul dbe more aware of the ethical and religious use of sacred, and also of inherent in terms of philosophy.

2019-01-30 22:48:55 UTC  

there is obviously a continuum where you have life-is-sacred pro-lifers on the edge and limited-case pro-lifers further down the line

2019-01-30 22:49:01 UTC  

Inherent implies that whether you are there, or not, it still is.

2019-01-30 22:49:23 UTC  

And I am arguing that is cognitive disonance, or a lack of proper word usage.

2019-01-30 22:49:30 UTC  

absolutely not

2019-01-30 22:49:38 UTC  

Obviously so.

2019-01-30 22:49:58 UTC  

When a tree falls in a forest, and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?