Message from @Malign

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2019-01-30 22:31:23 UTC  

dude you gave a position. you weren't just generically talking about something in the world. you took a position on the topic

2019-01-30 22:31:37 UTC  

If you believe in lethal self defense, you will, inherently, always agree with at least 1 form of abortion... Or it is cognitive disonance.

2019-01-30 22:32:12 UTC  

that's fine. and that 1 form of abortion seems to me to mean "life-threatening pregnancy," hence the self-defence parallel. but you disagree?

2019-01-30 22:32:35 UTC  

I don't need to, it seems you see the source of the logic.

2019-01-30 22:32:41 UTC  

If you disagree, argue against it.

2019-01-30 22:32:58 UTC  

Also, there is that 't' word.

2019-01-30 22:33:37 UTC  

Language matters, eh? Aboot? Looney?

2019-01-30 22:33:51 UTC  

Life-Endangering pregnancies.

2019-01-30 22:34:11 UTC  

Or dangerous pregnancies. Or harmful pregnancies.

2019-01-30 22:34:15 UTC  

'threat' is gaseous.

2019-01-30 22:37:34 UTC  

we both agree that abortion should be restricted to that 1 case. the problem we're facing are all these laws that have expanded abortion far beyond restricted cases. it sounded like you were flirting with that a bit but now we've worked it out

2019-01-30 22:37:58 UTC  

I never should it should be restricted to that one case.

2019-01-30 22:38:08 UTC  

Stop stating my positions for me.

2019-01-30 22:38:12 UTC  

That isn't the argument.

2019-01-30 22:40:08 UTC  

This is an ethical line in the sand... One which tons of people, of BOTH color ties, are afraid to look at.

One side wants capital punishment for criminals and the right to carry guns for lethal self defense... But declares all life inherently worth saving when it comes to abortions.

The other side wants to argue that there are 0 occassions in which a human life should be sacrificed, and inherently seekt o de-humanize fetuses/children in utero to do so...

I have constructed an ethical argument that shows there is a third position, an ethical super-position if you will, that people must resolve before they take a stance.

2019-01-30 22:40:21 UTC  

Either human life is inherently sacred, or it is not. Pick one.

2019-01-30 22:40:44 UTC  

NO WHERE in this ethical dilema/proof I offer do I state my personal stances.

2019-01-30 22:40:49 UTC  

I won't let you, or anyone else, do so.

2019-01-30 22:41:11 UTC  

you're mistaking dialogue for an attempt to put words in your mouth

2019-01-30 22:41:20 UTC  

Not at all.

2019-01-30 22:41:28 UTC  

abortion by firearms should be the only legal method

2019-01-30 22:41:34 UTC  

The first thing everyone tries to do when I present this to them is to infer my over-all position.

2019-01-30 22:42:01 UTC  

'You can go left, or you can go right, or you can go straight... Going backwards is useless.'

'OMG THIS GUY IS IN FAVOR OF GOING STRAIGHT! GET HIM!'

2019-01-30 22:42:13 UTC  

Metaphor.

2019-01-30 22:42:51 UTC  

just shoot the fetuses while they're in the womb

2019-01-30 22:43:43 UTC  

That would explain the gap in your teeth Raven. *snaps in a Z*

2019-01-30 22:43:47 UTC  

2019-01-30 22:43:49 UTC  

god damn

2019-01-30 22:44:16 UTC  

brb, gotta go kill myself real quick

2019-01-30 22:44:29 UTC  

Nooooooooo!

2019-01-30 22:44:31 UTC  

All is sacred!

2019-01-30 22:44:44 UTC  

there aren't enough chairs in my comp sci class, so I'm sitting on the floor in the back of the room right now

2019-01-30 22:45:20 UTC  

perfect place for suicide

2019-01-30 22:46:24 UTC  

"Either human life is inherently sacred, or it is not." false dichotomy. you can take the first position without any belief in life being sacred. there are very few pro-lifers who would deny a young woman an abortion for a rape baby

2019-01-30 22:47:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428940051896860672/540301944653348884/50973670_10219228372479119_8078857127570964480_n.png

2019-01-30 22:47:08 UTC  

Not a reply to you.

2019-01-30 22:47:09 UTC  

I mean...

2019-01-30 22:47:25 UTC  

why does the rape baby have to die? it ain't its fault

2019-01-30 22:47:31 UTC  

So you can believe that human life is sacred, but you can also believ eit is not?