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okay
picture this
a social institution existing for 2 thousand years
how likely is something so stable to change?
how do you define state entities
and being replaced by other institutions that operate on a similar basis
do you mean just hierarchies or centralized governance
no no no
not talking about what comes after
the roman empire as everyone knows it
how likely is it to change
Well, it wasn't stable
It changed a lot
it lasted 2000 years
Went through periods of instability
but it lasted 2000 years
@Loopy a political organization under one government that rules territory.
so again, how likely was it to change
very likely
how so
look at the punic wars
but it lasted 2000 years
and?
this isnt comparable
you keep shifting the point
this is just illogical
no im not
im using *your basis* that being the length of time something has lasted for to indicate its likelihood of change
you bring up irrelevant premises
no thats not my basis
its not a time thing
its an absolute fact
you said state based systems have existed for all time
thats using the length of time
that no civilization existed without states
i said all history
same thing
this isnt a basis of time
what is it a basis of?
im saying that civilizations never existed without the company of a state