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how so
there were numerous times throughout Roman history were the empire nearly gave way
look at the punic wars
but it lasted 2000 years
and?
this isnt comparable
you keep shifting the point
this is just illogical
no im not
im using *your basis* that being the length of time something has lasted for to indicate its likelihood of change
you bring up irrelevant premises
no thats not my basis
its not a time thing
its an absolute fact
you said state based systems have existed for all time
thats using the length of time
that no civilization existed without states
i said all history
same thing
this isnt a basis of time
im saying that civilizations never existed without the company of a state
its not they existed for very long
yeah so?
but cant things change?
its that no alternatives have ever existed
but youre dealing in absolutes
cant the sun start rotating around the earth?
see how absurd it is to make the statement "cant things change"
no, but thats bound by the laws of physics, not because the sun *always rotated around the earth*
basing an argument on absolutes is simply dogma
White supremacy
laws of physics are descriptive of observable patterns not prescriptive
so actually yes
it would be the latter
no?
yes
laws of physics or just all scientific laws are descriptive of observable patterns
yeah so?
thats literally how science works
whats your point?