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You're taking the behavior of people who live in orderly, governed societies, and saying that behavior would be replicated in societies without orderly government
Which civilization occurred without a central power
I can think of some societies off the top of my head that lacked central government
I would say precedent is a very solid determinant of if something will work or not, but fine, we can avoid that topic for now
I think that something like Bittorent which allows people to share files is different from the exercise of power
It's also used for sharing terrible content like child porn
As far as I'm concerned, giving up certain freedoms in exchange for other freedoms is a worthy trade
Yes, but we still use encryption because it makes it harder for hackers
We still put locks on our doors even though it takes one rock to smash a window
We have security not because it'll stop every single criminal
No, I stay away from drugs because I'm deeply uncomfortable with intoxication
The point of the law isn't to catch every criminal
It's to make those who would otherwise do it consequence-free think again
The set of reciprocal responsibilities each citizen obliges to another in a state
`where does the authority of the government come from?`
The authority of government is derived from the fact that they maintain a functioning social order
The food that arrives there travels by trade routes secured by the American military and navy
The government built the highways which carry the food to my supermarket
The supermarket stays in business because it knows that even if it is robbed it can go to the proper authorities
I don't think that international trade routes can exist without government
The fact hthat violence has always been a part of human civilization suggests it will probably always continue to be so
You can't compare "technological innovation" to "social order"
What I'm denying is that you can ever get to that point
All pay respect to the inventor of the shipping container
And what was the Romans' most important contribution to the West?
`the change ancom would make would be equivalent to the fall of the roman empire`
Lots of anarchists and libertarians essentially believe in the idea of the "better angels of our nature"
That there truly is a real moral sentiment in humans
Some use the opportunity to rob others or to commit violence
But what about all the crimes that happen during disasters
Precedent is a great way to establish an argument
I can also list plenty of examples of disasters which spawned crime
Not all people are actually violent, but there is a portion of the population which will behave in anti-social ways
The threat of violence isn't necessary in family and friendships but is necessary to bring together peoples who have no natural connection
You're basically stating that your technolical utopia is inevitable, but you know it can't come about except through more specialized labor in the near future
But like Lyoko my folks and sister are asleep and it's a small house, so I can't go on my phone
Because socialists don't implement socialist reforms
>Well THIS CORRUPTION WAS OKAY! Because there was corruption BEFORE!
I don't even care about Brazil, I just wanted to shit on socialists
Funny how big cities have problems with gun violence and then hate on the rural, well-to-do folk who use their firearms responsibly
To describe something as being substantial, you say "fat __"
For example, "a long time" translates to "a fat minute"
I've heard the term "fat A" used before on an exam
@Taihei Man walks up to you drumming in your face and mocking him is totally unacceptable?
Mocking someone on the street is not a cause for concern
That's an extremely different case than what was reported
Liberals be like: stop worshipping veterans! They're not gods!
The problem really seems to be representative democracy
@Scipio Americanus It just encourages politicians to pander to people
I think a direct democracy (for a small community, obviously) would be better
Representative democracy on a mass scale encourages pandering
Freedom does not exist in the absence of order
It's pretty simple how they're going to do it
Progressives are opposed to the entire idea of sovereignty
Sovereignty of the individual to make decisions for himself, or of property rights, or of the rights of a nation, because property (over yourself, country, house, etc.) creates inequalities
To them, America doesn't have sovereignty, it's an illegitimate state built on violence and oppression and has no *right* to maintain its borders against aliens
They want the freedom to be hedonists and be supported by the state
They have a moral system, it's just alien to us
Their moral system is pleasure/pain, ours is more good/evil
Their "good" is pleasure, care, comfort, support, inclusivity, and their "evil" is pain, exclusion, inequality, oppression
The right-wing moral axis aligns goodness with nobility, not care, and its evil is vice, not pain
I think you're ignoring the fact that the neoprogressives are extremely moralistic
It's just that they have their own moral system different from ours
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