Message from @Mr. X
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yo Mr. E i think you have no say no one is in an ideology since concepts just don't work, no?
@nagarjuna Mr. E is just going through his JBP phase
thats peterson right
@nagarjuna what?
And no Im not going through an imaginary "phase"
And what does this have to do with me liking peterson anyway?
Concepts can work though.
That's why I take different principals from different ideologies and philosophies
I was asking the other guy is JBP means Jordan peterson
I guess it is, that's all
I do agree that Marxism is also identity politics, but all politics is
In the sense of relying on the logic of identity/difference
"we are so-and-so, we have attribute X. We are against other group Y because they have attribute Z"
I never said it wasnt.
Although ideologies dont accurately represent the individuals entire philosophy
It only represents the groups common interests and principals.
Which is why I dont belong to a philosophy. My beliefs just arent that simplistic
Or basic
And I know, I was asking @DOLBATIC about JP not you @nagarjuna
Well you asked me "what?" I was clarifying what I thought you wanted clarified. And I was just laying out my understanding above
So do you see yourself as in a social group with common interests and principles?
I was asking Tavernist why he thought JP as relevant.
No
I guess nietzscheans and existentialists are the closest but thats only to some of my principles
So I wouldnt really say Im one of the two groups
Word I meant that the concepts people use to define themselves don't really mean what they think they mean. Ideologies are always simplifications of the world, it comes down to the idea that language doesn't really convey truth or meaning in the way many think it does
True.
@Mr. X Suckle my cuckle
No u
based third worldist meme
n0
Why do people call trotsy a revisionist?
because they don't understand what the word "revisionist" means
Because he was a nerd
Liberal capitalist "State" welfare
Oof
@Comrade Victor , not people but stalinist propaganda for "ultra-left tendency" (then "as agents of foreign imepialist agencies" and "fascist agents) which then "broke with working class" and provided interests of non-proletarian masses. "Permanent revolution theory" lead to liquidation of socialism in USSR if world revolution would not came (as capitalism stabilized, in opinion of Stalin, we must not to wait but to construct of socialism as we have enough internal resources for this) and so this lead to adoption and restoration of capitalism in USSR.
@Firefly fix this chat bro