Message from @National Trotskyist

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2018-04-09 17:09:23 UTC  

I just looked up Mao memes.

2018-04-09 18:09:06 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316281673756966922/432965193530605590/Yes_socialism.png

2018-04-14 22:13:51 UTC  

你好

2018-04-21 18:52:49 UTC  

C h i n g C h o n g

2018-04-22 14:17:10 UTC  

wing wong

2018-04-25 21:12:51 UTC  

ayyyy

2018-04-25 21:12:55 UTC  

gopniks

2018-04-25 21:45:41 UTC  

Remember tienanmen

2018-04-26 03:16:06 UTC  

Yes, and as a relative of the Army that suppressed the counter-revolutionaries, I am proud

2018-05-01 15:57:24 UTC  

The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989, commonly known in mainland China as the June Fourth Incident (六四事件), were student-led demonstrations in Beijing, the capital of the People's Republic of China, in 1989. More broadly, it refers to the popular national movement inspired by the Beijing protests during that period, sometimes called the '89 Democracy Movement (八九民运). The protests were forcibly suppressed after the government declared martial law. In what became known in the West as the Tiananmen Square Massacre, troops with automatic rifles and tanks killed at least several hundred demonstrators trying to block the military's advance towards Tiananmen Square. The number of civilian deaths has been estimated variously from 180 to 10,454.[2][5]

2018-05-01 15:58:01 UTC  

>from 180 to 10,454

2018-05-01 15:58:07 UTC  

can you even count

2018-05-01 16:02:59 UTC  

Shut

2018-05-01 16:03:08 UTC  

Local party leaders, for their part, conspired to cover up shortfalls and reassign blame in order to protect their own lives and positions.[citation needed]

In visits to Henan province in 1958, Mao observed what local officials claimed was increases in crop yield of one thousand to three thousand percent achieved, supposedly, in massive 24-hour pushes organized by the officials which they called "sputnik launches". But the numbers were faked, and so were the fields that Mao observed, which had been carefully prepared in advance of Mao's visit by local officials, who removed shoots of grain from various fields and carefully transplanted them into a field prepared especially for Mao, which appeared to be a bumper crop

2018-05-01 16:03:11 UTC  

The local officials became trapped by these sham demonstrations to Mao, and exhorted the peasants to reach unattainable goals, by "deep ploughing and close planting," and other techniques. This ended up making things much worse, the crop failed completely, leaving barren fields. No one was in a position to challenge Mao's ideas as incorrect, so peasants pulled out their bedding and coats into the fields, added seeds and water, and after they sprouted, buried the materials under the soil once the seedlings were high enough.[40]:122

In a similar manner to the massive Soviet-created famine in Ukraine (the Holodomor), doctors were prohibited from listing "starvation" as a cause of death on death certificates. This kind of deception was far from uncommon; a famous propaganda picture from the famine shows Chinese children from Shandongprovince ostensibly standing atop a field of wheat, so densely grown that it could apparently support their weight. In reality, they were standing on a bench concealed beneath the plants, and the "field" was again entirely composed of individually transplanted stalks.

2018-05-01 16:03:13 UTC  

Amartya Sen puts this famine in a global context, arguing that lack of democracy is the major culprit: "Indeed, no substantial famine has ever occurred in a democratic country—no matter how poor." He adds that it is "hard to imagine that anything like this could have happened in a country that goes to the polls regularly and that has an independent press. During that terrible calamity the government faced no pressure from newspapers, which were controlled, and none from opposition parties, which were absent."[43]

On the other hand, Sen points out that in India the numbers of "excess mortality" regularly surpass those of China during 1958–1961

2018-05-01 16:04:06 UTC  

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2018-05-01 16:10:25 UTC  

@Ragnarök#3780

2018-05-01 17:57:36 UTC  

Holodohoax is bullshit

2018-05-01 17:59:10 UTC  

Tiananmen was done by Chinese revisionists embracing capitalism, the protests were against that and for keeping communism, see anti-Gorbachev or Yeltsin incidents.
It's similar to Czechoslovak and Hungarian revolution which also tried to oust their revisionist governments.

2018-05-02 00:25:01 UTC  

did you just copy that from wikipedia

2018-05-02 00:25:24 UTC  

the Students did not try to keep communism

2018-05-02 00:25:31 UTC  

many wanted the Party to step down

2018-05-02 00:25:47 UTC  

they wanted a Democrat Party

2018-05-02 00:27:12 UTC  

when you unironically believe that the tiananmen square protesters were capitalists

2018-05-02 00:27:22 UTC  

singing the internationale is obviously incredibly capitalist

2018-05-02 00:27:35 UTC  

and the red flags were capitalist flags
duhh

2018-05-02 01:24:57 UTC  

Who wants to Raid a server

2018-05-02 20:33:02 UTC  

You

2018-05-02 20:58:00 UTC  

Lmao there are people who believe this meme to be true.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316281673756966922/441342618203324438/Sinicball.jpg

2018-05-02 21:03:56 UTC  

tfw people say that you push propaganda on your people as they push propaganda on your people

2018-05-03 03:15:12 UTC  

have any of you people experienced the entirety of it? Do you even know anyone that has? Our great leader Mao Zedong have taught us "Unless you have investigated a problem, you will be deprived of the right to speak on it" . I have relatives that were on the square, in charge of an army unit. You have not seen how it progressed to that stage, I have

2018-05-03 03:19:56 UTC  

@Skid how did it

2018-05-03 03:22:00 UTC  

it started when Hu Yaobang died

2018-05-03 03:22:15 UTC  

it was originally just a memorial event, which is permmitted

2018-05-03 03:23:55 UTC  

but then, a few people started spreading rumors like he was murdered by someone in the Party, and kinda pointed towards Deng

2018-05-03 03:24:24 UTC  

so the people was not happy, and they started protesting at Zhongnanhai and places

2018-05-03 03:25:13 UTC  

then they started publicly namingly insult Party leaders, regardless who, they find a name, they insult it

2018-05-03 03:25:33 UTC  

an then there are posters that says "down with the communist party"