Message from @Skid

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2018-05-01 16:03:13 UTC  

Amartya Sen puts this famine in a global context, arguing that lack of democracy is the major culprit: "Indeed, no substantial famine has ever occurred in a democratic country—no matter how poor." He adds that it is "hard to imagine that anything like this could have happened in a country that goes to the polls regularly and that has an independent press. During that terrible calamity the government faced no pressure from newspapers, which were controlled, and none from opposition parties, which were absent."[43]

On the other hand, Sen points out that in India the numbers of "excess mortality" regularly surpass those of China during 1958–1961

2018-05-01 16:04:06 UTC  

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2018-05-01 16:10:25 UTC  

@Ragnarök#3780

2018-05-01 17:57:36 UTC  

Holodohoax is bullshit

2018-05-01 17:59:10 UTC  

Tiananmen was done by Chinese revisionists embracing capitalism, the protests were against that and for keeping communism, see anti-Gorbachev or Yeltsin incidents.
It's similar to Czechoslovak and Hungarian revolution which also tried to oust their revisionist governments.

2018-05-02 00:25:01 UTC  

did you just copy that from wikipedia

2018-05-02 00:25:24 UTC  

the Students did not try to keep communism

2018-05-02 00:25:31 UTC  

many wanted the Party to step down

2018-05-02 00:25:47 UTC  

they wanted a Democrat Party

2018-05-02 00:27:12 UTC  

when you unironically believe that the tiananmen square protesters were capitalists

2018-05-02 00:27:22 UTC  

singing the internationale is obviously incredibly capitalist

2018-05-02 00:27:35 UTC  

and the red flags were capitalist flags
duhh

2018-05-02 01:24:57 UTC  

Who wants to Raid a server

2018-05-02 20:33:02 UTC  

You

2018-05-02 20:58:00 UTC  

Lmao there are people who believe this meme to be true.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316281673756966922/441342618203324438/Sinicball.jpg

2018-05-02 21:03:56 UTC  

tfw people say that you push propaganda on your people as they push propaganda on your people

2018-05-03 03:15:12 UTC  

have any of you people experienced the entirety of it? Do you even know anyone that has? Our great leader Mao Zedong have taught us "Unless you have investigated a problem, you will be deprived of the right to speak on it" . I have relatives that were on the square, in charge of an army unit. You have not seen how it progressed to that stage, I have

2018-05-03 03:19:56 UTC  

@Skid how did it

2018-05-03 03:22:00 UTC  

it started when Hu Yaobang died

2018-05-03 03:22:15 UTC  

it was originally just a memorial event, which is permmitted

2018-05-03 03:23:55 UTC  

but then, a few people started spreading rumors like he was murdered by someone in the Party, and kinda pointed towards Deng

2018-05-03 03:24:24 UTC  

so the people was not happy, and they started protesting at Zhongnanhai and places

2018-05-03 03:25:13 UTC  

then they started publicly namingly insult Party leaders, regardless who, they find a name, they insult it

2018-05-03 03:25:33 UTC  

an then there are posters that says "down with the communist party"

2018-05-03 03:26:27 UTC  

at first, the government allowed it, since they understand it was probably because of the people being sad over Hu Yaobang

2018-05-03 03:26:59 UTC  

at Hu's funeral, the govt allowed people to participate as well

2018-05-03 03:28:04 UTC  

but afterwards, there were people who made posters slandering on more Party leaders, for students, they made Da Zi Bao attacking their principal

2018-05-03 03:28:18 UTC  

they even tried to stop going to classes

2018-05-03 03:28:35 UTC  

and tried to raid the universities' offices

2018-05-03 03:28:45 UTC  

as well as some govt buildings

2018-05-03 03:29:05 UTC  

they contacted different cities trying to create a bigger riot

2018-05-03 03:29:46 UTC  

they started tearing down shops, burning cars, especially ambulances

2018-05-03 03:29:57 UTC  

and govt vehicles

2018-05-03 03:30:08 UTC  

its "weapons free" at that point

2018-05-03 03:30:19 UTC  

well, they got sticks and knives

2018-05-03 03:30:24 UTC  

but that is about it

2018-05-03 03:30:39 UTC  

fast forward on to the siege day

2018-05-03 03:30:44 UTC  

hmm that meme says they got tanks

2018-05-03 03:30:51 UTC  

to open fire

2018-05-03 03:30:53 UTC  

they robbed an ammunition truck

2018-05-03 03:31:00 UTC  

the meme refers to the army