Message from @fannybandit

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2018-03-10 07:53:32 UTC  

Yuri best girl

2018-03-10 07:55:06 UTC  

@fannybandit It's impossible to imagine a world without ethics. Morality is in fact a spook.

2018-03-10 07:55:32 UTC  

What do you think ethics is based on?

2018-03-10 07:55:43 UTC  

Morality is the governing dynamic of ethics.

2018-03-10 07:56:07 UTC  

While they are sometimes used interchangeably, they are different: ethics refer to rules provided by an external source, e.g., codes of conduct in workplaces or principles in religions. Morals refer to an individual's own principles regarding right and wrong.

2018-03-10 07:56:21 UTC  

Morality is actually informed by ethics not the other way around.

2018-03-10 07:56:21 UTC  

I'm aware.

2018-03-10 07:56:34 UTC  

No, morality is natural.

2018-03-10 07:56:47 UTC  

Morality can only ever be relative.

2018-03-10 07:56:49 UTC  

If it wasn't, only lawyers would know right from wrong.

2018-03-10 07:57:08 UTC  

Right and wrong is not clear

2018-03-10 07:57:17 UTC  

It's very clear.

2018-03-10 07:57:20 UTC  

No

2018-03-10 07:57:33 UTC  

All you have to ask is "why".

2018-03-10 07:57:45 UTC  

This is exactly why we have due process and a jury.

2018-03-10 07:58:14 UTC  

What about
"why not"

2018-03-10 07:58:32 UTC  

No one ever stood trial for something they didn't do.

2018-03-10 07:58:51 UTC  

Not in that sense

2018-03-10 07:59:04 UTC  

Then in which sense?

2018-03-10 07:59:10 UTC  

Negligence?

2018-03-10 07:59:48 UTC  

A person can violate ethics, however, if people find that their actions were morally sound, they will not be convicted.

2018-03-10 08:00:12 UTC  

Hence ethics deriving from morality.

2018-03-10 08:00:38 UTC  

Wouldn't it be the other way?

2018-03-10 08:00:52 UTC  

No, ethics comes from morality.

2018-03-10 08:01:03 UTC  

Morality is the governing dynamic of ethics.

2018-03-10 08:01:09 UTC  

Morals are subjective you can justify anything morally

2018-03-10 08:01:25 UTC  

What?

2018-03-10 08:01:36 UTC  

Try that again, in English this time.

2018-03-10 08:01:43 UTC  

What

2018-03-10 08:01:58 UTC  

Use a complete thought and/or sentence.

2018-03-10 08:02:15 UTC  

Oh, you made the proper edit.

2018-03-10 08:02:15 UTC  

I should really disabled autocorrect

2018-03-10 08:02:23 UTC  

Fuck

2018-03-10 08:02:26 UTC  

Ok hold on

2018-03-10 08:02:41 UTC  

Yes, you can justify anything that is moral.

2018-03-10 08:03:36 UTC  

Wouldn't morals be different on a person by person basis?

2018-03-10 08:03:55 UTC  

Not by person to person, but by situation to situation.

2018-03-10 08:04:03 UTC  

Hence why we have due process and trial by jury.

2018-03-10 08:06:34 UTC  

Morals are still a spook

2018-03-10 08:07:01 UTC  

It's not like your opinion holds any weight.