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2018-07-13 11:34:19 UTC  

Also prisons are full of people with drug charges

2018-07-13 11:34:47 UTC  

And when it comes to rapists and murderers police didnt stop them from murdering

2018-07-13 11:34:55 UTC  

True but I'd rather that than have kids under the influence of drugs and people's lives ruined by them.

2018-07-13 11:35:11 UTC  

Oh yes they have.

2018-07-13 11:35:15 UTC  

Many times

2018-07-13 11:35:20 UTC  

I'd rather have the state not decide what is moral or good and what is not

2018-07-13 11:35:34 UTC  

This goes to rapists as well

2018-07-13 11:35:45 UTC  

No but you need laws and ethics to run a country and to help civilians survive

2018-07-13 11:36:01 UTC  

To run a country yes

2018-07-13 11:36:11 UTC  

Remove a country and you dont need ethics

2018-07-13 11:36:17 UTC  

And to run a country you need your civilians to survive

2018-07-13 11:36:45 UTC  

I don't want to be part of a country which forces ethics and takes my freedom

2018-07-13 11:37:08 UTC  

Lack of a country cant exist though. Someone is going to take over, imperialists or tyrants from within if given the circumstances.

2018-07-13 11:37:28 UTC  

No not really

2018-07-13 11:37:41 UTC  

If people want to preserve freedom they will fight

2018-07-13 11:37:43 UTC  

I'd rather be controlled than be someone who ends up killing some innocent person.

2018-07-13 11:38:40 UTC  

Sure, but they cant win every time. Especially when its total freedom. Otherwise atleast one or two countries would be like that. Or a country would survive for longer than 5 years in the past.

2018-07-13 11:38:46 UTC  

it simply cant work

2018-07-13 11:39:31 UTC  

I hate imperialists as much as the next person but they're not the only problems for societies like this.

2018-07-13 11:40:10 UTC  

If you give too much freedom there's bound to be someone who becomes a tyrants because he has the freedom to become one.

2018-07-13 11:40:16 UTC  

How would you have people emerge to power in full anarchy

2018-07-13 11:40:22 UTC  

And that can happen in many ways.

2018-07-13 11:40:39 UTC  

Unless it's a vast majority that wants to create a government

2018-07-13 11:41:05 UTC  

People that are used to living freely will want to preserve it

2018-07-13 11:41:27 UTC  

Right now no one is thinking about it so nobody will want to revolt

2018-07-13 11:41:44 UTC  

Prople seek to keep the current system

2018-07-13 11:41:50 UTC  

People

2018-07-13 11:42:49 UTC  

Humans naturally want and need a hierarchy and are highly dependant on it. Hell social structures are even based around it too. Its unfortunate but true. The main thing we need to do is to make sure humans aren't as dependent on others. Or atleast make sure they're not dependent on leaders and can learn to be their own leaders.

2018-07-13 11:43:37 UTC  

That's a good thing on paper but how would it even work? Besides total freedom can end up killing people who havent done anything wrong.

2018-07-13 11:44:13 UTC  

Innocent people die every day you can't stop it with any system

2018-07-13 11:44:17 UTC  

Its true that just because the government says its wrong doesnt me it is but we need the law to create some order. It just depends on the law and it depends on who's in charge.

2018-07-13 11:44:23 UTC  

As for hierarchy

2018-07-13 11:44:30 UTC  

True but you can minimize it depending in some systems

2018-07-13 11:44:41 UTC  

It can exist just not illegitamate like the state

2018-07-13 11:44:52 UTC  

True anarchism will maximize it Im sure

2018-07-13 11:45:08 UTC  

Actually the opposite

2018-07-13 11:45:26 UTC  

People have less motive to kill in anarchy

2018-07-13 11:45:35 UTC  

Depends again what school of thought you use

2018-07-13 11:45:56 UTC  

And which school of thought are you talking about to support that claim?

2018-07-13 11:46:01 UTC  

State creates many social problems

2018-07-13 11:46:15 UTC  

I'm specificslly supporting egoism here