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Remove a country and you dont need ethics
And to run a country you need your civilians to survive
I don't want to be part of a country which forces ethics and takes my freedom
Lack of a country cant exist though. Someone is going to take over, imperialists or tyrants from within if given the circumstances.
No not really
If people want to preserve freedom they will fight
I'd rather be controlled than be someone who ends up killing some innocent person.
Sure, but they cant win every time. Especially when its total freedom. Otherwise atleast one or two countries would be like that. Or a country would survive for longer than 5 years in the past.
it simply cant work
I hate imperialists as much as the next person but they're not the only problems for societies like this.
If you give too much freedom there's bound to be someone who becomes a tyrants because he has the freedom to become one.
How would you have people emerge to power in full anarchy
And that can happen in many ways.
Unless it's a vast majority that wants to create a government
People that are used to living freely will want to preserve it
Right now no one is thinking about it so nobody will want to revolt
Prople seek to keep the current system
People
Humans naturally want and need a hierarchy and are highly dependant on it. Hell social structures are even based around it too. Its unfortunate but true. The main thing we need to do is to make sure humans aren't as dependent on others. Or atleast make sure they're not dependent on leaders and can learn to be their own leaders.
That's a good thing on paper but how would it even work? Besides total freedom can end up killing people who havent done anything wrong.
Its true that just because the government says its wrong doesnt me it is but we need the law to create some order. It just depends on the law and it depends on who's in charge.
As for hierarchy
True but you can minimize it depending in some systems
It can exist just not illegitamate like the state
True anarchism will maximize it Im sure
Actually the opposite
People have less motive to kill in anarchy
Depends again what school of thought you use
And which school of thought are you talking about to support that claim?
State creates many social problems
I'm specificslly supporting egoism here
Or post-left anarchism
Social problems will always exist. You need to make sure you're not as reliant on such social structures.
Like government, culture and religion.
But they are necessary for a lot of things
If they go to shit you need to know how to not rely on them in order to not get sucked into those problems.
Yes of course
People would have to take more control over their own lives
But would be free
I agree 100% but my main problem with true anarchy is that I think it will just spawn tyrants and many people will suffer because of it.