https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM2Y96rNvdw

We are just saying, why do trans people care so much about this issue

It’s dumb

Yeah but you are so hung up on the fact that you have the right to call them what you want which is true, you do, but why hurt someone for no reason

They dont all care

Some dont care at all

its trivial really, just call them he or she

its a little thing that is showing them that you dont hate them

Exactly

its just being respectful as you would be to anyone

being polite is just a good thing to do

I'm saying that's it's not something a normal person would care about and the people who do are doing so for attention and drama. There are a lot of people in the trans community that give it a bad name because of how extreme they are. And the problem is giving in to that small community of insignificant people makes other people look bad and validates their demanding demeanors.

Yeah they are people. some of them are disagreeable and annoying some are great

"giving in?" the only thing you could be "giving in" to is that they are allowed to identify as the opposite gender

which is fine

Again

I dont really think about this issue apart from when i hear people think that its an affront to their freedom to be polite

if the trans person is an asshole call them what you want

I'm referring mostly to pronouns beyond the standard two such as "zie" and so on

yeah i never really understood non-binary people but again i dont really hate them

Most people who identify truly as the main two will be patient and polite when there is a mistake at which point I would correct myself

yes i agree there is a level which is annoying when its made up pronouns

its only when that small thing becomes such a core entitlement

but i dont care because it doesnt impact me

Thats fair and I dont seek to change people with that mind set rather shed light on why people with my mindset act as I/we do

we live in an era in post industrialised socities where identity is a commoditity and that is sometimes taken by people

to a weird place

also we live in a time where the industrial nuclear family and the gender roles required

are no longer relevant

so theres a lot of confusion

If anything liberals have made it a big thing because they have no other vision or ideas for society

tldr; 2 Sexual Organs - 2 Pronouns; Many sexualities - many sexual orientations; if your rude and entitled to me, I'll be rude and entitled to you even if it is a bit cunty but I'm not a door mat

but again im not going to villify anyone because they are confused about gender roles or want attention on some level which constitutes a very small fraction of trans people

fair

i think that's fair, but i think it should still apply to nonbinary people

define nonbinary

but yeah i do the same thing most of the time

as in not identifying as male or female

Yeah non binary people realize gender is something that was more for industrialised society. roles were rigid and repressive

and those people are resisting that

I mean the male gender role is opressive