Message from @Bagrat

Discord ID: 469222530389901344


2018-07-18 19:16:09 UTC  

"giving in?" the only thing you could be "giving in" to is that they are allowed to identify as the opposite gender

2018-07-18 19:16:16 UTC  

which is fine

2018-07-18 19:16:21 UTC  

Again

2018-07-18 19:16:29 UTC  

I dont really think about this issue apart from when i hear people think that its an affront to their freedom to be polite

2018-07-18 19:16:55 UTC  

if the trans person is an asshole call them what you want

2018-07-18 19:16:58 UTC  

I'm referring mostly to pronouns beyond the standard two such as "zie" and so on

2018-07-18 19:17:21 UTC  

yeah i never really understood non-binary people but again i dont really hate them

2018-07-18 19:17:39 UTC  

Most people who identify truly as the main two will be patient and polite when there is a mistake at which point I would correct myself

2018-07-18 19:17:54 UTC  

yes i agree there is a level which is annoying when its made up pronouns

2018-07-18 19:17:55 UTC  

its only when that small thing becomes such a core entitlement

2018-07-18 19:18:06 UTC  

but i dont care because it doesnt impact me

2018-07-18 19:19:01 UTC  

Thats fair and I dont seek to change people with that mind set rather shed light on why people with my mindset act as I/we do

2018-07-18 19:20:06 UTC  

we live in an era in post industrialised socities where identity is a commoditity and that is sometimes taken by people

2018-07-18 19:20:12 UTC  

to a weird place

2018-07-18 19:20:41 UTC  

also we live in a time where the industrial nuclear family and the gender roles required

2018-07-18 19:20:49 UTC  

are no longer relevant

2018-07-18 19:20:54 UTC  

so theres a lot of confusion

2018-07-18 19:21:54 UTC  

If anything liberals have made it a big thing because they have no other vision or ideas for society

2018-07-18 19:22:34 UTC  

tldr; 2 Sexual Organs - 2 Pronouns; Many sexualities - many sexual orientations; if your rude and entitled to me, I'll be rude and entitled to you even if it is a bit cunty but I'm not a door mat

2018-07-18 19:22:37 UTC  

but again im not going to villify anyone because they are confused about gender roles or want attention on some level which constitutes a very small fraction of trans people

2018-07-18 19:22:48 UTC  

fair

2018-07-18 19:23:06 UTC  

i think that's fair, but i think it should still apply to nonbinary people

2018-07-18 19:23:27 UTC  

define nonbinary

2018-07-18 19:23:28 UTC  

but yeah i do the same thing most of the time

2018-07-18 19:23:37 UTC  

as in not identifying as male or female

2018-07-18 19:23:48 UTC  

Yeah non binary people realize gender is something that was more for industrialised society. roles were rigid and repressive

2018-07-18 19:23:57 UTC  

and those people are resisting that

2018-07-18 19:24:25 UTC  

I mean the male gender role is opressive

2018-07-18 19:24:32 UTC  

men commit suicide more

2018-07-18 19:24:40 UTC  

cannot talk about emotions as easily

2018-07-18 19:24:53 UTC  

those old gender roles arent good either

2018-07-18 19:25:08 UTC  

So yeah we are at a time where its confusing

2018-07-18 19:25:15 UTC  

gender in general doesnt really matter to me

2018-07-18 19:25:19 UTC  

all people are equal

2018-07-18 19:25:34 UTC  

Some Gender Roles are biological but over time became socially enforced as rule

2018-07-18 19:25:49 UTC  

yeah, the societal part is what i resist

2018-07-18 19:25:56 UTC  

anyways boyos i gtg

2018-07-18 19:25:59 UTC  

cya

2018-07-18 19:26:03 UTC  

Aight cya amos

2018-07-18 19:27:13 UTC  

Gender as a display of your sex was invented by John Money who was a sexual predator who drove 2 boys to suicide and traumatized unknow others. There are 2 sexes, gender is a grammatical term and nothing else. Quit being retards.
Inb4 "bait waaaah"

2018-07-18 19:27:20 UTC  

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