Message from @Bagrat

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2018-07-18 19:15:15 UTC  

I'm saying that's it's not something a normal person would care about and the people who do are doing so for attention and drama. There are a lot of people in the trans community that give it a bad name because of how extreme they are. And the problem is giving in to that small community of insignificant people makes other people look bad and validates their demanding demeanors.

2018-07-18 19:15:45 UTC  

Yeah they are people. some of them are disagreeable and annoying some are great

2018-07-18 19:16:09 UTC  

"giving in?" the only thing you could be "giving in" to is that they are allowed to identify as the opposite gender

2018-07-18 19:16:16 UTC  

which is fine

2018-07-18 19:16:21 UTC  

Again

2018-07-18 19:16:29 UTC  

I dont really think about this issue apart from when i hear people think that its an affront to their freedom to be polite

2018-07-18 19:16:55 UTC  

if the trans person is an asshole call them what you want

2018-07-18 19:16:58 UTC  

I'm referring mostly to pronouns beyond the standard two such as "zie" and so on

2018-07-18 19:17:21 UTC  

yeah i never really understood non-binary people but again i dont really hate them

2018-07-18 19:17:39 UTC  

Most people who identify truly as the main two will be patient and polite when there is a mistake at which point I would correct myself

2018-07-18 19:17:54 UTC  

yes i agree there is a level which is annoying when its made up pronouns

2018-07-18 19:17:55 UTC  

its only when that small thing becomes such a core entitlement

2018-07-18 19:18:06 UTC  

but i dont care because it doesnt impact me

2018-07-18 19:19:01 UTC  

Thats fair and I dont seek to change people with that mind set rather shed light on why people with my mindset act as I/we do

2018-07-18 19:20:06 UTC  

we live in an era in post industrialised socities where identity is a commoditity and that is sometimes taken by people

2018-07-18 19:20:12 UTC  

to a weird place

2018-07-18 19:20:41 UTC  

also we live in a time where the industrial nuclear family and the gender roles required

2018-07-18 19:20:49 UTC  

are no longer relevant

2018-07-18 19:20:54 UTC  

so theres a lot of confusion

2018-07-18 19:21:54 UTC  

If anything liberals have made it a big thing because they have no other vision or ideas for society

2018-07-18 19:22:34 UTC  

tldr; 2 Sexual Organs - 2 Pronouns; Many sexualities - many sexual orientations; if your rude and entitled to me, I'll be rude and entitled to you even if it is a bit cunty but I'm not a door mat

2018-07-18 19:22:37 UTC  

but again im not going to villify anyone because they are confused about gender roles or want attention on some level which constitutes a very small fraction of trans people

2018-07-18 19:22:48 UTC  

fair

2018-07-18 19:23:06 UTC  

i think that's fair, but i think it should still apply to nonbinary people

2018-07-18 19:23:27 UTC  

define nonbinary

2018-07-18 19:23:28 UTC  

but yeah i do the same thing most of the time

2018-07-18 19:23:37 UTC  

as in not identifying as male or female

2018-07-18 19:23:48 UTC  

Yeah non binary people realize gender is something that was more for industrialised society. roles were rigid and repressive

2018-07-18 19:23:57 UTC  

and those people are resisting that

2018-07-18 19:24:25 UTC  

I mean the male gender role is opressive

2018-07-18 19:24:32 UTC  

men commit suicide more

2018-07-18 19:24:40 UTC  

cannot talk about emotions as easily

2018-07-18 19:24:53 UTC  

those old gender roles arent good either

2018-07-18 19:25:08 UTC  

So yeah we are at a time where its confusing

2018-07-18 19:25:15 UTC  

gender in general doesnt really matter to me

2018-07-18 19:25:19 UTC  

all people are equal

2018-07-18 19:25:34 UTC  

Some Gender Roles are biological but over time became socially enforced as rule

2018-07-18 19:25:49 UTC  

yeah, the societal part is what i resist

2018-07-18 19:25:56 UTC  

anyways boyos i gtg

2018-07-18 19:25:59 UTC  

cya

2018-07-18 19:26:03 UTC  

Aight cya amos