Message from @Bagrat
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I think the big thing here is I'm referring to made up or neutral pronouns
Yeah you dont have to do anything
Don’t fucking throw a hissy fit, it doesn’t “invalidate” you
Also you shouldnt need me to validate your sexuality
Im not a trans person
I only do that in bed
Im just saying why be mean
not in conversation
Nobody is saying “be mean to trans people”
We are just saying, why do trans people care so much about this issue
It’s dumb
Yeah but you are so hung up on the fact that you have the right to call them what you want which is true, you do, but why hurt someone for no reason
They dont all care
Some dont care at all
its trivial really, just call them he or she
its a little thing that is showing them that you dont hate them
Exactly
its just being respectful as you would be to anyone
being polite is just a good thing to do
I'm saying that's it's not something a normal person would care about and the people who do are doing so for attention and drama. There are a lot of people in the trans community that give it a bad name because of how extreme they are. And the problem is giving in to that small community of insignificant people makes other people look bad and validates their demanding demeanors.
Yeah they are people. some of them are disagreeable and annoying some are great
"giving in?" the only thing you could be "giving in" to is that they are allowed to identify as the opposite gender
which is fine
Again
I dont really think about this issue apart from when i hear people think that its an affront to their freedom to be polite
if the trans person is an asshole call them what you want
I'm referring mostly to pronouns beyond the standard two such as "zie" and so on
yeah i never really understood non-binary people but again i dont really hate them
Most people who identify truly as the main two will be patient and polite when there is a mistake at which point I would correct myself
yes i agree there is a level which is annoying when its made up pronouns
its only when that small thing becomes such a core entitlement
but i dont care because it doesnt impact me
Thats fair and I dont seek to change people with that mind set rather shed light on why people with my mindset act as I/we do
we live in an era in post industrialised socities where identity is a commoditity and that is sometimes taken by people
to a weird place
also we live in a time where the industrial nuclear family and the gender roles required
are no longer relevant
so theres a lot of confusion
If anything liberals have made it a big thing because they have no other vision or ideas for society
tldr; 2 Sexual Organs - 2 Pronouns; Many sexualities - many sexual orientations; if your rude and entitled to me, I'll be rude and entitled to you even if it is a bit cunty but I'm not a door mat