Message from @Geamr
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And you should be fine
so where on the spectrum would you put yourself
not the autism one
Well I’m mostly a libertarian capitalist but I’m here to learn and observe
I rarely actually debate anybody
well don't take it personally but i really don't understand how anyone can think libertarianism is a good way to structure society
like people accuse socialism of "being against human nature" and "it just doesn't work"
but oh boy does that apply to libertarianism instead, so much
Oh no I agree
Libertarianism has its limits I’m not a full-on hardcore libertarian
I actually hate those people
Radical libertarianism is essentially as bad as anarcho capitalism
so what then, actually more of a liberal/libertarian hybrid?
what would even be the difference there
in the end
I mean yeah I’d say so
its weird, can't really put libertarianism left of liberal but not really right of it either
it sort of forks away it seems
Well libertarianism is my main guiding philosophy but I also acknowledge it has its limits so I’m willing to impose regulations and laws to make sure society doesn’t crumble under it
Well see all neocons describe themselves that way
But they’re all authoritarians
so how would your libertarian structure avoid authoritarianism to enforce the regulations neccessary?
They use that as a pretense to create a surveillance state
yeah i suppose the neocon state of affairs has slipped pretty deep down that rabbit hole in the past decade or two
something that is really concerning to me actually
Yeah definitely
but then you're basically saying that all that your libertarian state would have to rely on principle alone to avoid that kind of stuff?
i mean the world surrounding you will eventually force your hand in that regard in my opinion
When I say I’m a libertarian I mean that in a broad sense
I’d more consider myself in line with libertarian conservative
yeah i understand that but just going from the basics of small government but all the neccessary bells and whistles of modern global capitalism, with an ideological commitment to personal rights and stuff, is that about accurate?
Well what exactly do you mean when you say rely on principle
i mean libertarianism places a deep focus on individual rights, more so than traditional conservaties, so i assumed that's where you split with them?
And also yeah thats about accurate
Yeah seems accurate
I do tend to disagree with traditional conservatives somewhat
lol anyone in their right mind should
But I’d say libertarian economically and social issues is a mixed bag
Although on most social issues I really don’t think it’s up to the state to enforce that