Message from @Geamr
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Oh no I agree
Libertarianism has its limits I’m not a full-on hardcore libertarian
I actually hate those people
Radical libertarianism is essentially as bad as anarcho capitalism
so what then, actually more of a liberal/libertarian hybrid?
what would even be the difference there
in the end
I mean yeah I’d say so
its weird, can't really put libertarianism left of liberal but not really right of it either
it sort of forks away it seems
Well libertarianism is my main guiding philosophy but I also acknowledge it has its limits so I’m willing to impose regulations and laws to make sure society doesn’t crumble under it
so that's basically the neocon status quo
Well see all neocons describe themselves that way
But they’re all authoritarians
so how would your libertarian structure avoid authoritarianism to enforce the regulations neccessary?
They use that as a pretense to create a surveillance state
yeah i suppose the neocon state of affairs has slipped pretty deep down that rabbit hole in the past decade or two
something that is really concerning to me actually
Yeah definitely
but then you're basically saying that all that your libertarian state would have to rely on principle alone to avoid that kind of stuff?
When I say I’m a libertarian I mean that in a broad sense
I’d more consider myself in line with libertarian conservative
yeah i understand that but just going from the basics of small government but all the neccessary bells and whistles of modern global capitalism, with an ideological commitment to personal rights and stuff, is that about accurate?
Well what exactly do you mean when you say rely on principle
i mean libertarianism places a deep focus on individual rights, more so than traditional conservaties, so i assumed that's where you split with them?
And also yeah thats about accurate
Yeah seems accurate
I do tend to disagree with traditional conservatives somewhat
lol anyone in their right mind should
But I’d say libertarian economically and social issues is a mixed bag
Although on most social issues I really don’t think it’s up to the state to enforce that
i'd say libertarian economics are like lighting the fuse of the bomb we're all sitting on called capitalism
Yeah I get that that’s generally the consensus of socialists
The next step after capitalism inevitably collapses
Which hey it might happen
I don’t see it happening though and if it does happen it will be because of state overreach and intervention
State intervention has always been the most powerful tool in preserving the capitalist status quo
I’m not one to denounce socialists because marxists for example actually have some good arguments
Generally speaking less intervention in the economy works better but what you say is true
Politicians have been putting regulation after regulation as bandages for the damages caused by former regulations