Message from @Mr. X
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No many want them to just be happy
it's egoistic
but we call it altruism
Again I disagree
no one wants others to just be happy if they dont benefit
I want other people to be happy around me so I can be happy as well
I recognise I am happy when others are happy
That's wrong, I've seen many do it.
you have
Including myself
but you dont know they are being secretly egoists not knowing it
I've wanted people to be happy before and I knew I wouldnt benefit from it nor did I want to.
you don't know it consciously
it's subconscious
thats what stirner called involountary egoists
and volountary egoists are ones that ecognise their egoism
you dont recognise it and think it's altruism
why would it be subconscious even after hours of deep thinking?
but really deep down it's all egoism
maybe you are not used to it
you can call it altruism
but it's not
we assume it
no its partly both
I think i know what you mean
a lot of people dont experience egoism is a lot of actions like killing themselves
giving flowers to people because it makes you happy is purely egoistic tho
but it appears altruisitc because you ar ehelping others
so we say it's altruism
because they are not aware of it
Yes but what if it doesnt make you happy and if you dont want to be happy but do it anyway?
we are egoists deep down
well you wont do it
Thats wrong, many people do it including me
one reason you might because you think it will make you a good person
you are doing a "good cause"
which is just like morality
abstract and doesnt exist
you are lying to yourself
Again that doesnt explain people dying for others