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2018-08-23 12:14:09 UTC  

because you are happy when you like something when you are that thing

2018-08-23 12:14:14 UTC  

I like pizza

2018-08-23 12:14:19 UTC  

so when I eat it im happy

2018-08-23 12:14:23 UTC  

its selfish

2018-08-23 12:14:30 UTC  

Happiness isnt selfish

2018-08-23 12:14:42 UTC  

wanting to make yourself happy is

2018-08-23 12:14:42 UTC  

wanting to be happy is a want though

2018-08-23 12:14:50 UTC  

not selfishness

2018-08-23 12:15:04 UTC  

a want for you is a selfish want

2018-08-23 12:15:23 UTC  

when you give money to charity you think you are a good person

2018-08-23 12:15:32 UTC  

but you're just lying to yourself

2018-08-23 12:15:32 UTC  

yes but thats not why you love, you love because you want them to be happy not because you want to be happy

2018-08-23 12:15:52 UTC  

you want them to be happy because it makes you happy in return

2018-08-23 12:15:53 UTC  

No many people give to charity because they want the world to be a better place

2018-08-23 12:16:03 UTC  

people want others to be happy

2018-08-23 12:16:09 UTC  

because it makes us happy in return

2018-08-23 12:16:12 UTC  

No many want them to just be happy

2018-08-23 12:16:15 UTC  

it's egoistic

2018-08-23 12:16:20 UTC  

but we call it altruism

2018-08-23 12:16:22 UTC  

Again I disagree

2018-08-23 12:16:52 UTC  

no one wants others to just be happy if they dont benefit

2018-08-23 12:17:05 UTC  

I want other people to be happy around me so I can be happy as well

2018-08-23 12:17:18 UTC  

I recognise I am happy when others are happy

2018-08-23 12:17:19 UTC  

That's wrong, I've seen many do it.

2018-08-23 12:17:34 UTC  

you have

2018-08-23 12:17:46 UTC  

Including myself

2018-08-23 12:17:46 UTC  

but you dont know they are being secretly egoists not knowing it

2018-08-23 12:18:07 UTC  

I've wanted people to be happy before and I knew I wouldnt benefit from it nor did I want to.

2018-08-23 12:18:20 UTC  

you don't know it consciously

2018-08-23 12:18:27 UTC  

it's subconscious

2018-08-23 12:18:38 UTC  

thats what stirner called involountary egoists

2018-08-23 12:18:55 UTC  

and volountary egoists are ones that ecognise their egoism

2018-08-23 12:19:05 UTC  

you dont recognise it and think it's altruism

2018-08-23 12:19:07 UTC  

why would it be subconscious even after hours of deep thinking?

2018-08-23 12:19:11 UTC  

but really deep down it's all egoism

2018-08-23 12:19:23 UTC  

maybe you are not used to it

2018-08-23 12:19:39 UTC  

its party egoism but there is also altruism

2018-08-23 12:19:53 UTC  

you can call it altruism

2018-08-23 12:19:56 UTC  

but it's not

2018-08-23 12:20:01 UTC  

we assume it

2018-08-23 12:20:02 UTC  

no its partly both