Message from @Mr. X
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its selfish
Happiness isnt selfish
wanting to make yourself happy is
wanting to be happy is a want though
not selfishness
a want for you is a selfish want
when you give money to charity you think you are a good person
but you're just lying to yourself
yes but thats not why you love, you love because you want them to be happy not because you want to be happy
you want them to be happy because it makes you happy in return
No many people give to charity because they want the world to be a better place
people want others to be happy
because it makes us happy in return
No many want them to just be happy
it's egoistic
but we call it altruism
Again I disagree
no one wants others to just be happy if they dont benefit
I want other people to be happy around me so I can be happy as well
I recognise I am happy when others are happy
you have
Including myself
but you dont know they are being secretly egoists not knowing it
I've wanted people to be happy before and I knew I wouldnt benefit from it nor did I want to.
you don't know it consciously
it's subconscious
thats what stirner called involountary egoists
and volountary egoists are ones that ecognise their egoism
you dont recognise it and think it's altruism
why would it be subconscious even after hours of deep thinking?
but really deep down it's all egoism
maybe you are not used to it
its party egoism but there is also altruism
you can call it altruism
but it's not
we assume it
no its partly both
I think i know what you mean
a lot of people dont experience egoism is a lot of actions like killing themselves
giving flowers to people because it makes you happy is purely egoistic tho