Message from @nagarjuna
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I'm just not that well read so it's hard for me to know what's going on
Same.
I guess I'll have to dig deeper than this shit.
hahahaha the blind leading the blind here
Well, I try to look up marxist videos
trying to get the contexts
and what not
oh yeah for sure. audiobooks are sick also. i actually speak german i could read marx in german
das nice
tried the audiobook it went ok
lambo DAS nice
what's your strand of marxism/politics? we don't have flairs here I'm sad
I'm probably a regular ML
But Maoism has concepts that are interesting
I should dig deeper in that realm
What about you?
I'm a Baudrillardian but no one says that. People think of it as postmodernism but what's beyond concepts (the ineffable) is really important to me so it makes it hard to say.
But I definitely want a social revolution, something like global governance even if its not a state, no war, everyone has enough, and we just shit post and travel the stars
lmao
Do you have brief explanation on what Baudrillardian tenets they stand on?
basically he picks up on Bataille and Mauss ideas about giving gifts as the basis for economics
Ah
we are wanting to give the best gift because it shows we are powerful, so similar to Foucault's biopolitics the powerful are so because they "give us" our captive lives here
And so he criticized Marx for thinking the economic is at the bottom of everything, although then Marxists will say Baudrillard misunderstood how Marx meant that
Economics the bottom of everything?
my angle isn't that I need to prove Marx is wrong or anything Baudrillard is just what got me to where I am now *shrugs*
Giving gifts? Essentially more welfare and care for the citizens?
Like less proletarian oriented.
haha long before welfare
But go on for a more pragmatic approach?
Enlighten me
well for example people get together and form social relationships, eventually there's a new generation and you are leaving things to them
Uphold Keynsianism-Baudrillardianism
this is beyond economics becuase there must be some reason you align your interest with your children even though you will die
What if i dont have children
Well then you are still locked in a gift relationship because your parents gave you life and their ancestors to them and so on
Eh, maybe until we start collectivizing test tube babies
But go on
But then I guess society would have given life
What if your offspring happens to be a nuisance than entrusting them the gifts?